RE: [chairs] Of un-patents and un-inventions

["Considine, Toby (Facilities Technology Office)" <Toby.Considine@fac.unc.edu>]

Comment from our copyleft guy on campus..

>> I would call glenn otis brown at creative commons. 
>> They have been over these questions many times 
>> and have some solutions.
>> Also eben moglen at columbia law and of fsf.

tc
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:51 AM
To: Chairs OASIS; Elysa Jones
Subject: Re: [chairs] Of un-patents and un-inventions

Elysa,

100% agreed.

Collectively I'm sure we can put something of value together here.
I've also solicited input from the OSI community today too.
They have had more experience with this already - so getting
some support from their perspective is also useful here.

My sense is that next up we have to actually create an
unpatent template and run through it a couple of samples.

The OASIS EML example I posted the link to I think is
one excellent such - I'm sure people can think of others.

Thanks, DW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elysa Jones" <ejones@warningsystems.com>
To: "David Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>; "Chairs OASIS"
<chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [chairs] Of un-patents and un-inventions


> David,  Thanks for the links and info.  I'll try to get up to speed.  I am
> hoping the OASIS board is paying attention to this discussion.  I've also
> filed and fought patent issues and hope we can find a way to corral the
> madness in the good work of OASIS.  "Open invention" is a good name which
> is similar to "open source" that is palatable.    "FRI" would be fun but
> I'm afraid the acronym would hide the good intentions of the real meaning
> "freely reusable idea."  Regards, Elysa
>
> At 10:19 AM 3/14/2005, David Webber \(XML\) wrote:
> >Elysa,
> >
> >I'm open to better suggestions!
> >
> >BTW - seems like the patent approach to this is
> >http://www.researchdisclosure.com/
> >but again this IMHO falls into the same bear trap we are trying to
avoid -
> >eg -
> >this just sucks you down into the morass that is the USPTO - we're trying
to
> >ensure
> >we stay away from all that.
> >
> >I've had a suggest of other terms like "open invention", or "freely
reusable
> >idea".
> >
> >I also think we need "obvious and self-evident" in there too....
> >
> >Thanks, DW
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Elysa Jones" <ejones@warningsystems.com>
> >To: "David Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>; "Chairs OASIS"
> ><chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>
> >Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 10:57 AM
> >Subject: Re: [chairs] Of un-patents and un-inventions
> >
> >
> > > Except for the name, I think this is the best idea I have heard yet
wrt
> >IPR!
> > > Cheers,
> > > Elysa Jones, EM-TC
> > >
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