Re: [chairs] News today on IBM patents and OASIS

["David Webber \(XML\)" <david@drrw.info>]

Eduardo,

Understood.

I was just hoping that someone might be able to flush
this a little more out into the open for us!

Apparently more patience required.... ; -)

We will await some more formal outcomes in due
course.

Thanks, DW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eduardo Gutentag" <Eduardo.Gutentag@Sun.COM>
To: "David Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>
Cc: "Chairs OASIS" <chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [chairs] News today on IBM patents and OASIS


> David,
>
> that's from a week ago, 11 April.
>
> But more importantly than chronological accuracy, I fail now, as I
> failed a week ago, to see how this vague reference to a vague promise
> ("this month", "the company said", "free", no quote, no attribution, no
> date, no URL) can be construed, as others have done, as having anything
> to do with OASIS IPR policy. If that promise has indeed been made (and
> I'm not saying it's impossible for it to have been made, I'm only saying
> that I've not seen it be made other than this NYT reference) then all it
> means is that someone at IBM is talking RF, which is most welcome, but
> without specifying whether it's RF on RAND Terms or RF on Limited Terms.
> And without that qualification, any further speculation is just that.
>
> On 04/16/2005 07:17 AM, David Webber (XML) wrote:
>  > See todays' NYT for an important development from IBM.
>  >
>  >
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/11/technology/11ibm.html?pagewanted=2&en=d2b
>  >
>  > I find this most welcome - and the article contains many insights
>  > particularly on Page 2.
>  >
>  > There is clearly much more to be done here - including possible fine
tuning
>  > of the
>  > draft IPR policies to directly encourage others to follow IBM's ground
>  > breaking
>  > lead here?
>  >
>  > And for OASIS to influence these moves that are afoot worldwide so that
>  > implementers of OASIS specifications can do so in confidence and in a
>  > spirit of true open collaboration for the benefit of the industry.
>  >
>  > Obviously we will have more opportunity to discuss this in New Orleans!
>  >
>  > DW
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  >
>  >>Dear colleagues,
>  >>
>  >>This morning I was delighted to read in the New York Times that IBM has
>  >>committed "all of its future patent contributions to the largest
standards
>  >>group for electronic commerce on the Web, the Organization for the
>  >>Advancement of Structured Information Standards, would be free." [1]
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>[1]
>  >>
>  >
>  >
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/11/technology/11ibm.html?ex=1113883200&en=d2b
>  >
>  >>df8df8eca625c&ei=5070
>  >>
>  >>
>  >
>  >
>
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