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Subject: Meeting Minutes 6/8/2004 -- DITA Technical Committee
Meeting Minutes 6/8/2004 -- DITA Technical Committee
*** Please see Action Items and Decision Summary at the end ***
** Agenda **
------------
1. Roll call
2. Review/approve minutes from 18 May
- http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200405/msg00034.html
3. Report on W3C Workshop on Web Services and Compound Documents
(Erik Hennum)
4. Assess the DITA Briefings (review sessions 1-3); start
listing issues for upcoming specification prep.
5. New "dita-users" forum -- discuss how to move toolkit
discussions, etc. to this forum.
6. AOB?
** Minutes **
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1. Roll call
- Voting Members: 9 out of 19; not a quorum
Mary McRae
Michael Priestley
France Baril
Seraphim Larsen
Frank Peters
Bruce Esrig
Bruce Sesnovich
Sharon Veach
Don Day
- Observers and guests:
Scott Tsao
Erik Hennum
- Prospective Members: (will let attendance count towards
their membership qualifications)
Shawn Jordan
Mike Wethington
Rob Frankland
- We do NOT have a quorum, so we can't make any decisions
today.
2. Review/approve minutes from 18 May
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200405/msg00034.html
- Can't approve, no quorum
- We did review action items - all outstanding items were
completed.
3. Report on W3C Workshop on Web Services and Compound Documents
(Erik Hennum)
- http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200406/msg00016.html
- The conference was about interaction and rendering,
getting different pieces of the web application story to
work together. DITA was thus not central to the theme of
the workshop
- But he did get lots of interest and many interesting
questions --
- What's the relationship of conref and conkeyref to XML
Fragment Interchange?
- How does DITA manage the timing of refreshing conrefs?
Does DITA keep a snapshot of the last refresh so the
content can be displayed if the remote resource isn't
available?
- How does DITA resolve discrepancies in
processing/style when a map is aggregating topics from
someone else that has their own styling? What is the
behavior of a DITA map in an environment like this?
- What is the relationship of DITA semantics to RDF?
- All in all, it was very worthwhile raising the DITA
perspective to this audience
- And it may be worthwhile to stay in touch with W3C --
there are interesting developments there that may be of
interest to us, particularly with regard to changing the
browser model
- Question: Did Erik get any contacts of people with whom we
might work in the future? Answer: No, it was too tightly
focused on Web applications.
- Bruce Esrig -- Interested in the comment that if someone
is using your content and you aren't aware of it. This is
not just a technical problem but also a "social" problem.
People should be informed if their content is being used,
and you should work together to resolve issues.
Discussion: Michael answered to this in terms of
specialization. Basically, it's something we need to
revisit after we do the "Specialization" briefing so we
can have a more informed discussion.
- Bruce Esrig -- When you construct a map, it's another way
you are bringing information together. When you do this,
what is the influence on the content? How does
specialization interact with maps? Answer: Don -- The map
can invoke style overrides per the individual topics.
Michael -- You shouldn't keep style information in the
map. Don -- Let's log this issue as coming out of the
maps briefing, and try to prioritize a solution.
4. Assess the DITA Briefings (review sessions 1-3); start
listing issues for upcoming specification prep.
- Issue from Briefing #2 (topics and maps): How does
specialization interact with maps? (see question from
Bruce Esrig, above)
- Issue: Slides must be made available well before the
meeting starts, so people can get to them in time.
- Comment: WebEx was a lot easier to use than SameTime. But
IBM can offer SameTime. So, we will continue using both.
- Comment from Scott Tsao: Include Erik's presentation
from JoAnn Hackos' conference as part of Briefing #3 (DITA
processing). Don will discuss with Erik offline.
- Don: Do we need to spend time developing one or more
representative processing scenarios? Seraphim thinks it
would be helpful.
- Don: As a committee, do we need to spend time discussing the
processing models? Bruce Esrig, Rob Franklin -- Yes, we
need to have something to show to our local processing
people. Don: Should this be concurrent with developing
the specification, or should be done afterwards?
Bruce/Rob: It can be done afterwards.
- Eric from BMC: Useful to have a mechanism to submit
questions in advance, to be covered in subsequent
briefings. Don will put out all the rest of the briefing
subjects, with a specific request for people to submit
questions.
- Bruce Sesnovich: With the ability to specialize, is there
a potential for namespace conflicts? (Two people creating
two specializations off the same topic, but giving them
the same name.) Don wants to handle this as an issue to
be handled with the other issues, with the help of Erik
Hennum. Don also has a pertinent URL that he will post to
the list.
5. New "dita-users" forum -- discuss how to move toolkit
discussions, etc. to this forum.
- Michael has opened a dita-users forum on Yahoo Groups.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-users/>
- How should we move the discussion there?
- First of all, the Yahoo list is intended for USERS,
whereas the TC list is intended for the group creating
the specification.
- Seraphim: Post a summary of each briefing with URLs
pointing to the presentations.
6. AOB?
- Not covered.
** Summary of Decisions **
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- No decisions made (no quorum)
** Action Required **
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010 Eric Hennum -- Present W3C Compound Documents Paper at W3C
(June 1-2 in San Jose, Calif.).
- Done as of 6/8/04 - Eric did present and his report
was sent to the TC list.
011 Michael Priestley -- Provide URL for first briefing (to take
place Tuesday May 25th)
- Done as of 6/8/04
012 All -- Invite people to attend May 25th briefing (but
consolidate phone lines).
- Done as of 6/8/04
013 Michael Priestley -- Start "dita-users" group on Yahoo
Groups.
- Done as of 6/8/04
014 Don Day -- Don will send out a list of all the remaining
briefings subjects, with a specific request for people to
submit questions ahead of time.
015 Don Day -- Don to post a URL to the list, pertinent to the
discussion of naming conflicts and namespaces. (cf. Issue
#002).
016 Don Day -- Slides for the briefings must be made available
well in advance, just in case people aren't able to connect
to SameTime or WebEx.
** Issues to be Resolved **
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001 Bruce Esrik -- How does specialization interact with maps?
002 Bruce Sesnovich -- How do we resolve name conflicts? (E.g.
two people create two different specializations off the same
parent topic, but give them the same name).
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