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MEETING MINUTES -- 14 DEC 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE

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From: "Larsen, Seraphim L" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:09:17 -0700

MEETING MINUTES -- 14 Dec 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
*** Please see Action Items and Decision Summary at the end *** 



** Agenda ** 
------------ 

    1. Roll call

    2. Review/approve minutes from 07 December
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200412/msg00003.html

    3. Specification status
        - Proposal for terminology change (structural
          specialization):
          http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200412/msg00023.html
        - Two suggestsions for the DITA 1.0 Specification:
          http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200412/msg00024.html

    4. New: Recommendation for adding explicit sectionheadings to
       all DTD/schema files:
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200412/msg00026.html
        
    5. List issues (triage as potential post-1.0):
        - Bugs reported on current DITA DTDs and Schemas and Bug
          list addition
            -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00023.html
            -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200412/msg00028.html
        - Should <tm> allow images or logoized content?
            -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00024.html
        - Should <keyword> be allowed to nest?
            -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00025.html

    6. AOB?




** Minutes ** 
------------- 

    1. Roll call
        - We have 13 of 20 => QUORUM
        - Proposal -- to skip the next couple of weeks and resume
          meeting Tuesday, January 4th.
            - Accepted by acclamation.

    2. Review/approve minutes from 07 December
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200412/msg00003.html
        - We reviewed last week's minutes
        - Minutes approved by acclamation

    3. Specification status
        - Vote on whether to break out the specialization mechanism
          as a separate specification.
            - Proposal -- To keep the specialization mechanism
              within the 1.0 spec, and defer discussion on what to
              do with it for the 2.0 spec.
                - No objections, approved by acclamation.
            - Proposal -- To include Eliot's paragraph (Message 7 in
              the December archives), explicitly saying that
              specialization can be used outside of DITA, to be
              reworded by Michael in the specialization section of
              the 1.0 spec.  We can still have a white paper on this
              idea, that explains how to apply specialization to new
              architectures.
                - Michael will work with Eliot and Erik to clarify
                  how to word this.  
                - Accepted by acclamation.
        - Proposal for terminology change ("structural
          specialization"):
            -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200412/msg00023.html
            - Eliot isn't happy with it; there can also be semantic
              specialization that doesn't modify the structure.  
            - Michael agrees, but can't think of a better term.
            - Discussion ensued...
            - In the end, we decided (by acclamation) to allow
              Michael to make the proposed change.
        - Two suggestions for the DITA 1.0 Specification (from Eric
          Hixson):
            -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200412/msg00024.html
            - Proposal -- to include this information into the
              specialization section of the spec.
                - No objections, accepted by acclamation.

    4. New: Recommendation for adding explicit sectionheadings to
       all DTD/schema files:
        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200412/msg00026.html
        - Proposal -- To follow the convention of annotating
          sections in the DTD, MOD, and ENT file; exact naming will
          be worked out later.
            - No objections, accepted by acclamation.

    5. List issues (triage as potential post-1.0):
        - Bugs reported on current DITA DTDs and Schemas and Bug
          list addition
            -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00023.html
            -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200412/msg00028.html
            - Proposal -- Don to make the bug fixes based on
              recommendations 1-5 and 8.
                - No objections, accepted by acclamation.
        - Should <tm> allow images or logoized content?
            -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00024.html
            - NO TIME, NOT COVERED
        - Should <keyword> be allowed to nest?
            -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00025.html
            - NO TIME, NOT COVERED

    6. AOB?
        - NO TIME, NOT COVERED



** Summary of Decisions ** 
--------------------------

    - We had a record number of decisions today!  :)

    - DECISION -- We will skip meeting on 12/21 and 12/28; next
      meeting will be Tuesday, January 4th, 2005.

    - DECISION -- To keep the specialization mechanism within the
      1.0 spec (not spin it off separately), and defer discussion on
      what to do with it for the 2.0 spec.

    - DECISION -- To include Eliot's paragraph (Message 7 in the
      December archives, explicitly saying that specialization can
      be used outside of DITA, to be reworded by Michael) in the
      specialization section of the 1.0 spec.  We can still have
      a white paper on this idea, that explains how to apply
      specialization to new architectures.

    - DECISION -- To use the term "structural specialization" (cf.
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200412/msg00023.html).

    - DECISION -- To include Eric Hixson's suggestions
      (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200412/msg00024.html)
      in the specialization section of the 1.0 spec.

    - DECISION -- To follow the convention of annotating sections in
      the DTD, MOD, and ENT file (details at
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200412/msg00026.html);
      exact naming will be worked out later.

    - DECISION -- Don to make the bug fixes based on recommendations
      1-5 and 8 (details at
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200411/msg00023.html
      and
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200412/msg00028.html).
        

** Action Required ** 
--------------------- 
    021 JoAnn Hackos, Michael Priestley -- Summarize the discussion
        of substitution and post to the TC list.  Still pending as
        of 7/20/04.  >>>11/30/04: Action: Michael Priestley to add
        note to conref that people may substitute conref targets at
        build time

    022 Don, Michael -- Put together a "self-study" tutorial/demo,
        as per JoAnn's comments regarding the DITA sessions. Still
        pending as of 7/20/04. 

    040 Don -- Cull the past minutes and discussion list to create
        an inventory of all the things we need to close on in order
        to create the 1.0 spec.  Create a list of these items and
        post it in the Documents area of the website.  >>> This will
        be ongoing.

    051 055 Don Day, 9/7/04 -- Take the discussion of @scale
        attribute and related issues to the list (presentation
        mechanisms). (merge with next...)
    
    061 Don Day, 10/05/04 -- Reply to image align and tm notes in
        dita-users.  >>> Agenda item for 11/9/04.  <<<11/30/04:
        image align issue is a doc mistake, corrected in the
        "dita132" toolkit version of Language Reference source.

    062 Eric Sirois, 10/05/04 -- provide XSLT validation for
        specialized schemas once developed (Indi recommends Jarno to
        work with him)

    063 All, 11/02/04, 11/09/04 -- Provide comments to Michael
        Priestley on the draft -- provide comments to Michael ASAP.
        Michael Priestley to incorporate comments into draft
        specification; prepare new iteration for 11/16 meeting.  >>>
        11/30/04 in progress

    068 Nancy Harrison to send summary of DocBook table
        accessibility additions to TC list.


** Issues to be Resolved ** 
--------------------------- 
    005 All -- What should the scope and length of the conceptual
        introduction be?  >>> We'll get this from JoAnn.  >>> Still
        pending as of 11/9/04.  >>> 11/30/04: Closed.

    006 All -- Should DITA specialization mechanism be documented in
        a separate specification in order to make it easier to use
        in other XML applications that otherwise have no
        relationship to topic-based writing?  >>> Ongoing.  >>>
        11/30/04: - add to spec issues list  

    009 "Best Practices" document -- Let's put this on the agenda
        for future discussion.

    010 Relationship between DITA and other topic-based
        architectures (such as S1000D) -- Need to incorporate this
        into the "Best Practices" document.

    011 All -- Revisit use of @scale on image (general treatment of
        graphics, ie raster vs vector assumptions, etc.).
        Compare/contrast with controls for the <object> element,
        which in HTML subsumes the <img> element.  >>> 11/30/04: see
        Actions 051, 055 above.


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