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From: Nancy Harrison
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 17:43:00 -0000

Submitter's message Note that I'm pretty sure I didn't get all the names of companies down accurately; please let me know where they're wrong or misspelled. thx ActionItems: none ================================================= Minutes of the OASIS DITA TC Tuesday, 16 March 2021 Recorded by Hancy Harrison link to agenda for this meeting: https://wiki.OASIS-open.org/dita/PreviousAgendas Attendance: Robert Anderson, Deb Bissantz, Stan Doherty, Kris Eberlein, Carlos Evia, Nancy Harrison, Scott Hudson, Eliot Kimber, Zoe Lawson, Keith Schengili-Roberts, Eric Sirois, Dawn Stevens, Frank Wegmann, Jim Tivy Voting members: Robert Anderson y y Deb Bissantz y y Business ======== 1. Roll call Regrets: Carsten Brennecke, Chris Nitchie, Gershon Joseph 2. Approve minutes from previous business meeting: 02 March 2021 X (Lawson, X 2021) [deferred till submitted] 3. Announcements none 4. Action items [no updates; see agenda for complete list] 5. Check-in: How are people doing in this difficult time? How is your state/country doing? [no official business discussed] 6. Review of DITA 2.0 proposal deadlines https://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/DeadlinesDITA2.0 Stage three (Kimber) Deprecate or remove copy-to attribute (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dita/issues/33) 15 March 2021: Proposal to reviewers (Anderson, Sirois) ?: Initial discussion by TC ?: TC vote - Eliot; I updated the grammar files, I'll put in a pull request for them... (Nitchie) Loosen attribute specialization rules (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dita/issues/15) (./) 25 August 2020: Early draft feedback received from all reviewers ? : Submit to reviewers ? 2021: Initial TC discussion ? 2021: Vote by TC - Kris; I'll touch base with Chris on working with him on this proposal. 7. What aspect of DITA 2.0 is most appealing to you? https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202103/msg00017.html (Eberlein, 16 March 2021) - Kris; let's go around and list our priorities... - Zoe; cleanup, for clarity - Dawn; the feature I wrote the proposal for; changes to troubleshooting/diagnostics. - Stan; nested steps - Nancy; loosening of @ specialization rules, even though it's not quite done yet. - Eliot; general cleanup, and getting rid of chunking and copy-to. - Keith; multimedia object, also nested steps. - Eric; updated bookmap proposal, plus removing chunking and copy-to. - Robert; removing chunking, also nested steps - Scott; nested steps; allowing examples in more places; ditaval enhancements. - Frank; nested steps; new ordering for alt titles; cleanup. - Carlos; multimedia objects in base, also changes to simpletable to make it more compatible with HTML5. - Deb; nested steps, overall cleanup. - Kris; especially for people using Adobe EM, cleanup, streamlining, and eliminating technical cruft. 8. Shall we do a DITA 2.0 Webinar for vendors? https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202103/msg00018.html (Eberlein, 16 March 2021) - Kris; would be good for companies to start planning for 2.0 now, not wait till it gets approved. - Stan; that's a grand idea, we can find out if they're invested in investigating, who are the early adopters? - Keith; one interesting data point; wrt tech writer job positions; the last peak happened right around the release of DITA 1.3, so there's a benefit of more gen'l awareness and interest in DITA, a general publicity effect... a. Brainstorm on What are the companies that we should encourage to attend? - Zoe; is there anything wrt migration doc that we should have beforehand? Or does the webinar help us figure out what we need to put into that document? - Kris; both; we need to have some stuff prepped, but the response will help us focus on what we need for migration guide. So, suggestions on who to invite? - Stan; Keith has a list of vendors on his ditawriter site. - Keith; would want to update that list, just off the top of my head: -for CCMS: AEM, SDL, Ixiasoft, Vasont, EasyDITA, docs???, Componize, Bluestream. - for editors; Syncrosoft, jep Xeditor, onto? netherlands, Arbortext?? - Kris; Arbortext is no longer sold as standalone, only with Windchill, but we might want to contact PTC. XMLMind? - Scott; might want to include translation tool vendors? Could talk to Rudolpho Raya, from xlation perspective - Zoe; what about Altova, (XMLspy)? - Frank; and what about Quadralay - Zoe; they don't even support 1.3 - Frank; actually, they do. - Zoe; -ish... What abaout Topleaf? DITAtoo? - Keith; in Japan, a couple of DITA tools; Dante by Infoogreen, and Darwin by NextSolutions. We can also see the list on the ditawrites page. - Keith; wrt xlation WHP? localization services vendors who work in DITA space? - Scott; do they have tooling, or just services? - Kris; there are translation tools out there, that need to be updated when new version of DITA. Wrt Rudolpho, MaxPrograms, DITA publisher. And Rudolpho is still a TC member. - Keith; what about content delivery tools? e.g., Congility, Zoomin, Moravo? , RenderX, Stilo. . - Kris; what about Orbis? - Eliot; I don't think any resources are going into it. - Kris; what about RSI? - Eliot; RSI CCMS is now Orbis. - Kris; so that's marginal, any other CCMS vendors? [none noted] b. Brainstorm of roles; Who within those companies (role or person) should attend? - Kris; who's interested in working on this? - volunteers were Carlos, Robert, Zoe (for presenting, but not for contacting/organizing) - Deb; what's the time frame for this webinar? - Kris; we need to wait till Chris's last proposal is thru the pipeline, but we should have a date set and enough work done so we can promote it at Convex. Deb, how's that? - Deb; next 2 months are packed for me, but if it's in June, then I might be able to commit. - Dawn; I can volunteer to help with organization. - Kris; that would help. What about targeting early/mid June for a date? - Carlos; that works for me - Eliot; me, too. - Kris; so mid June. So there are 2 questions to answer: 1. Who, or what roles, do we want to contact in the companies that we want to get? so, product owners, and lead product architects. - [agreement] - Deb; we don't have an architect; we have a development lead, a product owner, or a dev. mgr. - Kris; then the next question: 2. what aspects of 2.0 will be most challenging for vendors? What will require the most thought and planning? - Kris; for CCMS's, the ways in which they can ease conversion of content from 1.3 to 2.0 will be one big item. - Deb; it's important to highlight compatibility-breaking changes, since they require preparation. - Kris; that's why we required the migration info in the proposal template. [to be continued] 12 noon ET close -- Ms. Nancy Harrison Document Name : DITA TC Meeting Minutes 16 March 2021 No description provided. Download Latest Revision Public Download Link Submitter : Ms. Nancy Harrison Group : OASIS Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) TC Folder : Meeting Notes Date submitted : 2021-03-17 10:42:27