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Subject: Re: [emergency-msg] Re: [emergency] Groups - CAP 1.1 Subcommittee Draft (CAP_1.1-draft_1-4-05) uploaded




From: Michelle Raymond <michellearaymond@gmail.com>
To: emergency-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:18:53 -0600






I don't remember this specific lat. and lon. wording before; but, no
matter. Regardless of it's vintage, the wording, "Latitudes in the
Southern Hemisphere and longitudes in the Western Hemisphere are
signed negative with a leading dash," appeals to both my mathematical
and usability focused facets.

If the GIS folk agree, I think your golden.

- Michelle


On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:27:03 -0600, Jeff Kyser <ktrails@comcast.net> wrote:
> Okay, that's fine. Not like I never changed
> my mind... :)
> 
> BTW, I'm getting e-mail back from spamcontrol@salumatics.com
> when I post, but I'm guessing it is the replies to your account
> rather than the mailing list?
> 
> -jeff
> 
> On Jan 18, 2005, at 7:21 AM, Art Botterell wrote:
> 
> > And the TC chose not to act on it then, for whatever reason.  Now it's
> > 2005 and we're considering it again.  That's how these things go.  ;-)
> >
> > - Art
> >
> >
> > At 7:01 AM -0600 1/18/05, Jeff Kyser wrote:
> >> Actually, I sent the same language to Allen Wyke
> >> who posted it to this list July 14, 2004 :-)
> >>
> >> -jeff
> >>
> >> On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:39 AM, Art Botterell wrote:
> >>
> >>> At last, a constructive suggestion!  Personally I'd have no problem
> >>> with that suggested language, although my opinion isn't what
> >>> matters. I think this issue was referred back to the GIS
> >>> subcommittee last week, so I'm forwarding this to them.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> - Art
> >>>
> >>> At 5:44 AM -0600 1/18/05, Jeff Kyser wrote:
> >>>> Still seems to me that the following is clearer
> >>>> and more precise (Section 3.3.1):
> >>>>
> >>>>    Latitudes in the Southern Hemisphere and longitudes in the
> >>>>    Western Hemisphere are signed negative with a leading dash.
> >>>>
> >>>> (as opposed to 'Coordinates in the Southern and Western Hemispheres
> >>>> ...')
> >>>>
> >>>> A similar sentence has been added to Section 1.5, it would benefit
> >>>> from
> >>>> the same language.
> >>>>
> >>>> -jeff
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 9, 2005, at 10:14 PM, Art Botterell wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Bob -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Your concern was discussed at some length by both the GIS and
> >>>>> Messaging Subcommittees.  During the 11/30 call the Messaging
> >>>>> Subcommittee took up Issue 14 and voted to stick with this
> >>>>> formulation, which is in line with GIS industry and ISO usage.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Of course you're welcome to offer an amendment to the full TC for
> >>>>> discussion on our next call, hopefully with some specific
> >>>>> alternate language.  After that it'll be up to the Committee.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Art
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At 10:35 PM -0500 1/9/05, Bob Wyman wrote:
> >>>>>> Art Botterell wrote:
> >>>>>>>  The CAP 1.1 spec as approved by the Messaging Subcommittee.
> >>>>>>> Please
> >>>>>>>  review for approval to move it to public comment ASAP.
> >>>>>>  In the issues list for the CAP specification, it is stated that
> >>>>>> issue 14 would be addressed in 1.1... Yet, the offending and
> >>>>>> non-sensical
> >>>>>> sentence "Coordinates in the Southern and Western hemispheres are
> >>>>>> signed
> >>>>>> negative with a leading dash." remains in the specification. As I
> >>>>>> have been
> >>>>>> saying, since before 1.0 was approved by this working group,
> >>>>>> "coordinates"
> >>>>>> can't be signed -- only the components of a coordinate can be
> >>>>>> signed.
> >>>>>>  I suggest that an effort should be made to incorporate committed
> >>>>>> changes to the specification before it is released for public
> >>>>>> comment.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  bob wyman
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>