Martin, there are times when we go through a number of items in quick succession and I agree we need to give the scribe a chance to catch up.
We can fix this in future meetings, but for the current one are there particular entries which you would like to clarify?
Regards,
Martin Sarabura
R&D Fellow, PTC
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In the minutes, I think we need to at very least split up the chat into the different agenda items. It's very difficult to see what they contain
in this format.
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From: "Sarabura, Martin" <msarabura@ptc.com>
To: "OASIS (oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org)" <oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date: 12/07/2015 01:22
Subject: [oslc-core] Minutes from OSLC Core TC meeting July 9
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Next meeting
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/Meetings/Telecon2015.07.23
Attendees
Bill Chown (Mentor Graphics)
David Honey (IBM)
Harish (SoftwareAG)
Jean-Luc Johnson (Airbus)
Jim Amsden (IBM)
Jim Ruehlin (IBM)
Martin Pain (IBM)
Martin Sarabura (PTC)
Resolutions
Proceed with the proposed V2 compatibility policy as outlined in
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/V2Compatibility
Actions
The current list of voting members will be published along with the agenda prior to each meeting
Jim A and Martin S to meet next week to discuss project timeline
Martin P to update Issue 9; final review and vote at next meeting
Vote on adoption of issue 13 and dropping issue 10 at next meeting
[07:04] David Honey (IBM): David agreed to be scribe.
[07:17] List of attendees: Bill Chown (Mentor Graphics), David Honey (IBM), Harish (SoftwareAG), Jean-Luc Johnson (Airbus), Jim Amsden (IBM), Jim Ruehlin (IBM), Martin Pain (IBM), Martin Sarabura
(PTC)
[07:06] Jim Amsden (IBM): See
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oslc-core/ballots.php
[07:06] Martin Sarabura (PTC):
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/V2Compatibility#preview
[07:09] Martin Sarabura (PTC):
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/Meetings/Telecon2015.06.11
[07:10] David Honey (IBM): Minutes from previous meeting 11th June approved.
[07:10] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Sorry to interrupt, Jim
[07:13] David Honey (IBM): Jim: Current list of voting members needs updating. TC needs minimum of 5 voting members. We should review this next meeting.
[07:20] David Honey (IBM): Supported media types, proposal is that where V2 had a MUST for application/rdf+xml, in V3 this should be a SHOULD.
[07:20] David Honey (IBM): Better compatibility with W3C LDP (Linked Data Platform).
[07:22] David Honey (IBM): Discovery: V3 is more dynamic/incremental than V2 and based on LDPCs and link headers. V2 uses service provider catalog.
[07:23] David Honey (IBM): V3 currently does not include service provider catalog. Implication is it should be included in V3 for compatibility.
[07:26] David Honey (IBM): Martin Pain has proposal for LDPCS.
[07:26] David Honey (IBM): General agreement V3 should include both V2 service proivider catalog and new LDPC discovery.
[07:28] David Honey (IBM): Preview: small differences, not seen as a big issue.
[07:28] David Honey (IBM): Query service: It is OK for V3 spec to have normative references to V2 spec so can include support for query if needed.
[07:30] David Honey (IBM): Resource paging: Some differences. Should support W3C LDP paging when spec reaches consensus/stability.
[07:31] David Honey (IBM): Preference is to have references to V2 normative sections rather than duplicate in V3 spec.
[07:32] David Honey (IBM): Resource constraints: Minor change to use ldp:constrainedBy to have the same value as oslc:instanceShape.
[07:32] David Honey (IBM): Tracked Resource Set: No issues.
[07:33] David Honey (IBM): Actions, Automation: Refer to V2.0 sections.
[07:34] David Honey (IBM): Summary of biggest issues: Discovery, references from 3.0 to V2.0 normative sections.
[07:35] Martin Sarabura (PTC):
http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/oslc-core/specs/compat.html
[07:36] David Honey (IBM): Jim: Proposes to move compatibility document into main spec.
[07:41] David Honey (IBM): Proposal is to accept the proposed changes form compatibility document.
[07:39] David Honey (IBM): +1
[07:39] Harish (SoftwareAG): +1
[07:39] Jean-Luc Johnson (Airbus): +1
[07:40] Martin Pain (IBM)1: +1 (non-voting member)
[07:40] Martin Sarabura (PTC): +1
[07:40] Bill Chown (Mentor Graphics): 0 (non voting)
[07:40] Jim Amsden (IBM): +1
[07:42] David Honey (IBM): Jim will proceed with the proposed edits.
[07:42] Jim Ruehlin (IBM): +1 (non-voting member) (1) Yes (2) +1 (non-voting member) This is a single choice vote.
[07:42] Jim Ruehlin (IBM): please ignore vote that I initiated.
[07:43] David Honey (IBM): Anyone working on a 3.0 implementation?
[07:43] David Honey (IBM): Lyo reference implementation is based on 3.0
[07:45] David Honey (IBM): FYI, there is an implementation of LDP on Bluemix.
[07:46] David Honey (IBM): Bill: Mentor Graphics will be implementing on 3.0, but timescales currently unknown.
[07:48] Jean-Luc Johnson (Airbus): Jean-Luc Johnson (Airbus) voted for: +1 (non-voting member)
[07:48] David Honey (IBM): Roadmap and dates needs reviewing, impact of compatibility changes. Jim proposed meeting with Martin S to review dates.
[07:51] David Honey (IBM): Is timescale acceptable? If it needs to be sooner, we need more resourcing/editors to accelerate.
[07:57] Martin Sarabura (PTC):
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-9
[07:57] Martin Pain (IBM)1:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oslc-core/201503/msg00016.html
[07:58] Bill Chown (Mentor Graphics): I have to drop off at the hour. I will be attending more in future
[08:01] Harish (SoftwareAG): I have to drop off now as well. Will catch up with the minutes later.
[08:02] David Honey (IBM): Martin to write a specific proposal on
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-9 that
can be reviewed next meeting.
[08:02] anonymous morphed into Harish (Software AG)
[08:09] David Honey (IBM): Providing link header on any REST response might place an undue burden on implementations having to change many different front service implementations.
[08:09] David Honey (IBM): Using a root "/" container is problematic - security, and there might be many different application context roots underneath it.
[08:12] David Honey (IBM): What if application's home page URI provided the URI of the service provider catalog.
[08:13] David Honey (IBM): Advantage is that users typically knows the URI of the application home page.
[08:14] David Honey (IBM):
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-13?jql=project%20%3D%20OSLCCORE
[08:15] David Honey (IBM):
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-13
[08:21] David Honey (IBM): Propose we discuss
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-13
next meeting and take vote.
[08:23] David Honey (IBM):
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-10
[08:23] David Honey (IBM): Jim proposes dropping this due to compatibility concerns.
[08:25] David Honey (IBM): Vote on this in next meeting.
[08:31] David Honey (IBM):
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-14
[08:31] David Honey (IBM): Meeting adjourned.
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