Re: Fw: [sca-bindings] 15-day Committee Specification Draft ReviewRequest for Service Component Architecture JMS Binding Specification Version1.1

[Robin Cover <robin@oasis-open.org>]

Many thanks, Simon. I updated the ticket and will send out the
public review announcement hopefully later today.

http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-322?focusedCommentId=24376&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_24376

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Simon Holdsworth wrote:

> Robin,
> 
> With respect to the JMS XML Binding Schema, it has been developed by the SCA Bindings TC, is a normative part of the JMS
> Binding Specification Version 1.1, and should be considered part of the material for public review of the JMS Binding
> specification. �However the schemas overall for the SCA TC's have been coordinated by the Assembly TC within the
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200912 �namespace, hence the location of the file within
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/
> This relationship also applies to XML schemas from other SCA TCs.
> 
> I confirm that the version of the XML document at
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd is the one which corresponds to CSD05 of the
> JMS binding spec.
> 
> The original request included a request for the diff to be generated as part of the PR process, as this was combined with the
> CSD request and at that time the CSD document was not available. �Now that the JMS specification CSDPR03 document is
> available I will create a diff between this and the cd04 version later today.
> 
> Regards, Simon
> 
> Simon Holdsworth
> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair, AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate
> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com
> 
> 
> 
> From: � � � �Robin Cover <robin@oasis-open.org>
> To: � � � �Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM@IBMGB
> Cc: � � � �Robin Cover <robin@oasis-open.org>, sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org
> Date: � � � �24/01/2011 20:52
> Subject: � � � �Re: Fw: [sca-bindings] 15-day Committee Specification Draft Review Request for Service Component Architecture
> JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> Simon,
> 
> I hope this restatement makes it easier for you or the TC to provide
> clarification on the status of the "JMS XML Binding Schema", but
> I am not able to determine whether it is truly a "part of" the
> SCA JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1, since the apparent
> URI identifies the resource as part of a Work Product produced
> by the SCA Assembly TC.
> 
> Restatement of question about the status of the "JMS XML Binding Schema"
> as part of the public review announcement for 'Service Component Architecture
> JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1' (csprd03)
> 
> 1. The question arose because in the preceding public review of this
> � �JMS Binding specification,
> � �http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201006/msg00001.html
> � �the announcement identified the JMS XML Binding Schema as part of
> � �the review:
> � �"The schema files are available at:
> � �Schema:
> � �http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-cd04.xsd
> 
> 2. It seemed (to me) odd that a schema apparently developed by the
> � �SCA-Assembly TC would be referenced as part of the review for the
> � �work product of the SCA-Bindings TC, but OK.... for now... move on...
> 
> 3. On analogy, if the 'csprd03' public review announcement is to make
> � �comparable reference to the machine-readable file for the
> � �JMS XML Binding Schema (sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd), the proper
> � �URI would be:
> � �http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd
> 
> 4. That file was published on 03-Nov-2010 16:45, apparently as a product
> � �of the SCA-Assembly TC
> � �sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd �03-Nov-2010 16:45
> 
> 5. So we could just ignore the "JMS XML Binding Schema" machine
> � �readable file as part of the 'csprd03' public review announcement,
> � �but it seems that the latest published instance of the "Service
> � �Component Architecture Assembly Model Specification Version 1.1"
> � �(at Committee Draft 06, 10 August 2010) punts to the "SCA JMS
> � �Binding Specification" as the source for the schema file
> 
> � �http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd06.html#_Toc270599635
> � � �(in Appendix A.9)
> 
> � �"A.9 sca-binding-jms.xsd
> � �Is described in the SCA JMS Binding specification [SCA-JMSBINDING]"
> 
> � � �which says:
> 
> � �"[SCA-JMSBINDING ]
> � �OASIS Committee Draft 04, "SCA JMS Binding Specification
> � �Version 1.1 Version 1.1", May 2010
> � �http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec.pdf "
> 
> 6. In other words, it's difficult for me to determine whether the
> � �"JMS XML Binding Schema" is properly a "part of" the
> � �Assembly Model Specification or part of the JMS Binding Specification
> 
> 7. I'm sure the difficulty lies in my failure to appreciate how the
> � �different specs align and cross-reference each other, but in terms
> � �of "part-whole" relations, I need to understand whether the
> � �"JMS XML Binding Schema" is defined canonically and normatively
> � �as "part of" one or the other specification. �That declaration would
> � �have implications as to where and when the Schema (now
> � �apparently at:
> � �http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd )
> � �would be part of public review.
> 
> Sorry for my confusion here.
> 
> - Robin
> 
> ===== Other data:
> 
> Snippets from the SCA JMS Binding Specification csprd03
> 
> - "The binding.jms element MUST conform to the XML schema defined in
> � �sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd [BJM30036]."
> - 3.1 Extensibility: The JMS binding allows further customization of
> � �the binding element and its subelements with vendor specific
> � �attributes or elements. �This is done by providing extension points
> � �in the schema; refer to Appendix A, 'JMS XML Binding Schema:
> � �sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd' for the locations of these extension
> � �points.
> 
> Robin Cover
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> =============== initial message:
> 
> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201101/msg00016.html
> 
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Robin Cover wrote:
> 
> > Simon,
> >
> > I made a tour over the history of the request (18/Nov/10 05:19 AM)
> > and cannot account for why it got stalled apparently as of
> > 23/Nov/10 03:50 PM.
> >
> > If there are untidy details you think I need to understand to
> > process the public review request, please let me know, but
> > otherwise I think the fastest path is to just help with
> > clarifications and/or resources for the following, and then
> > we should be ready for the PR announcement.
> >
> > - Robin
> >
> > 1. Please confirm that the specification for this public review
> > � request has only one prose "part", referenced in [1]
> >
> > 2. Please clarify whether the two "Schema"[s] cited in
> > � the specification are normative, and whether we
> > � need to reference one or both by separate URI [2]
> > � in the public review announcement.
> > � My provisional opinion is that it suffice to reference/cite
> > � just this schema URI, although the prose spec seems not to do
> > � so:
> > � http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd
> >
> > 3. Changes/diff
> >
> > � Per TC Process "Changes made to a committee draft after a
> > � review must be clearly identified in any subsequent review..."
> > � See questions below about the diff document or list
> > � of changes that should be referenced in the announcement
> >
> > 4. does the TC have a "recommendation from the TC of external
> > � stakeholders who should be notified of the review" ?
> > � ["none" is acceptable]
> >
> >
> > ===== References:
> >
> > [1] 'csprd03' as apparent subject of 15-day review
> >
> > Service Component Architecture JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1
> > Committee Specification Draft 05 /
> > Public Review Draft 03
> > 8 November 2010
> >
> > Specification URIs:
> > This Version:
> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html
> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.doc
> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.pdf
> > (Authoritative)
> >
> > * note that this spec was uploaded in November
> >
> > [2] Additional "parts" or schemas that may require reference in the
> > � �public review announcement
> >
> > a) [Spec Appendix] A. JMS XML Binding Schema: sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd
> > � http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html#_Toc276112160
> >
> > - is the "JMS XML Binding Schema" intended to be normative?
> > �If so, we expect a plain text file
> > - the apparent filename for the schema is "sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd"
> > - what is the corresponding URI?
> > - possible candidate URI is:
> > �http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-csd05.xsd
> > - hint: previous public review suggests
> > �http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201006/msg00001.html, was:
> > �http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-binding-jms-1.1-cd04.xsd
> >
> > snippets:
> >
> > - "The binding.jms element MUST conform to the XML schema defined in
> > � sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd [BJM30036]."
> > - 3.1 Extensibility: The JMS binding allows further customization of
> > � the binding element and its subelements with vendor specific
> > � attributes or elements. �This is done by providing extension points
> > � in the schema; refer to Appendix A, 'JMS XML Binding Schema:
> > � sca-binding-jms-1.1.xsd' for the locations of these extension
> > � points.
> > - from NS document at: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200912
> > �any hints?
> >
> > b) Spec section "3 JMS Binding Schema"
> > � http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csprd03.html#_Toc276112132
> >
> > - does this content for "JMS Binding Schema" have, or need,
> > �and external file and URI?
> >
> > [3] Changes/diff
> >
> > In the submission request -322 (Additional Resources), the form
> > value states
> >
> > � "[3] http://www.oasis-open.org/simplediffplease";
> >
> > Was that a request to have TC Admin produce a diff document?
> >
> > The diff we need should be a diff of B against A (right?):
> >
> > A:
> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-cd04.doc
> > B:
> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-csd05.doc
> >
> > If the TC can provide this diff document, it will be appreciated. �If we need
> > to do it, I'll make arrangements.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Robin Cover
> > Interim TC Administrator
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> >
> > On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Simon Holdsworth wrote:
> >
> >> Robin.
> >>
> >> I've still not seen a response to this request regarding the JMS binding 15
> >> day review. �It is now over 2 months since the
> >> original request for PR was made. I would appreciate it if you could
> >> acknowledge receipt of this mail and let me know the
> >> status/outlook for this public review request.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Simon
> >>
> >> Simon Holdsworth
> >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair,
> >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate
> >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
> >> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
> >> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com
> >>
> >> __________________
> >>
> >> Robin,
> >>
> >> Not sure if my previous mail got through to you... we are still waiting for
> >> the 15 day public review to start as recorded in
> >>
> >> http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-322
> >>
> >> Thanks, Simon
> >>
> >> Simon Holdsworth
> >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair,
> >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate
> >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
> >> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
> >> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com
> >>
> >> __________________
> >>
> >> I was under the impression we had resolved the dependency for the XSD file
> >> for the JMS binding spec public review, I'd
> >> appreciate it if you could let me know current status of this as I've not
> >> seen any announcement of the public review on the
> >> mailing list.
> >>
> >> The request is logged in
> >> http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-322 �which is in
> >> "submission review" state.
> >>
> >> Regards, Simon
> >>
> >> Simon Holdsworth
> >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair,
> >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate
> >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
> >> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
> >> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com
> >> ----- Forwarded by Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM on 06/01/2011 13:28 -----
> >>
> >> From: � � � �Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM
> >> To: � � � �mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
> >> Cc: � � � �Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB, Bryan Aupperle/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
> >> Date: � � � �13/12/2010 13:39
> >> Subject: � � � �Re: [sca-bindings] 15-day Committee Specification Draft
> >> Review Request for Service Component Architecture JMS
> >> Binding Specification Version 1.1
> >>
> >>____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
> 
> >>
> >>
> >> Mary,
> >>
> >> What is the status of this request now? �I believe Mike Edwards has sorted
> >> out the updated XSD files for all the specs
> >> including this one.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Simon
> >>
> >> Simon Holdsworth
> >> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair,
> >> AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate
> >> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
> >> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
> >> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: � � � �"mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> >> To: � � � �sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org
> >> Date: � � � �18/11/2010 10:22
> >> Subject: � � � �[sca-bindings] 15-day Committee Specification Draft Review
> >> Request for Service Component Architecture JMS
> >> Binding Specification Version 1.1
> >>
> >>____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The following request has been submitted to the OASIS TC Administrator on
> >> 18/11/2010:
> >> Submitter's Name
> >> � Simon Holdsworth
> >> TC Name
> >> � SCA Bindings
> >> TC Email Address
> >> � sca-bindings@lists.oasis-open.org
> >> Work Product Title
> >> � Service Component Architecture JMS Binding Specification Version 1.1
> >> Committee Specification Draft ##
> >> � csd01
> >> CSD URI
> >> �
> >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/40045/sca-jmsbinding-1.1-spec-cd04-rev3.doc
> >> Additional Resources
> >> � http://www.oasis-open.org/simplediffplease
> >> Approval Link
> >> �
> >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/40245/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202010-11-11.doc
> >> Previous Public Review Announcement
> >> � http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201006/msg00001.html
> >> Abstract
> >> � SCA JMS Binding Specification
> >> TC Description
> >> � The SCA Bindings technical committee defines the manner in which SCA
> >> composites and components communicate using a variety
> >> of protocols
> >> Notes
> >> � Please generate a diff from the previous published PR version, which was
> >> cd04.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you for your request. We will confirm receipt and schedule the public
> >> review shortly. You can follow the progress at:
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