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Subject: Raw chat log of 2011-03-17 call
Simon Holdsworth: Audio conference *UPDATED 10th Jan 2011*
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Simon Holdsworth: Agenda
Simon Holdsworth: 1. Opening
Introductions
Scribe assignment
Top of the scribe list:
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG
David Booz IBM
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation
Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation
Bryan Aupperle IBM
Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc.
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of the minutes from 10 March:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41418/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-10.doc
3. Actions
20110310-01 [Simon Holdsworth] Prepare a version of the JMS Testcase
document with the test assertions as an appendix
20110310-02 [Simon Holdsworth] Prepare a version of the Web services
testcase document with the test assertions as an appendix
20110310-03 [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases
doc described in
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html
4. New Issues
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-149
There's no linkage between the JMS binding spec and the test cases document
5. Open Issues
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-142
Missing links to test artifacts (WS)
Owner: Editors
Status: Resolution proposed, comments made.
Latest email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00020.html
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-143
Missing links to test artifacts (JMS)
Owner: Editors
Status: No proposed resolution, pending resolution of BINDINGS-145
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-146
WS Binding Testcases document has no conformance section
Owner: Anish Karmarkar
Status: Resolution proposed, comments made.
Latest email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00020.html
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-147
Conformance Statement missing for the JMS Binding Assertions
Owner: Simon Holdsworth
Status: Proposed resolution in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00036.html
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-148
Conformance Statement missing for the Web Services Binding Assertions
Owner: Simon Holdsworth
Status: Proposed resolution in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00037.html
6. AOB
Mike Edwards: sorry - my wife's got the home phone at the moment
Mike Edwards: join in a couple of minutes
Simon Holdsworth: on proposal to 146, following reference to test suite:
Simon Holdsworth: The Test Suite artifacts relating to this document can
be found here:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01.zip
Simon Holdsworth: Currently 30% voting members present, need 3 more for
quorum
Mike Edwards: still waiting for wife to relinquish phone
anish: Scribe: Anish Karmarkar
anish: 40% of voting members in attendance
anish: not quorate
anish: Topic: AI review
anish: 20110310-01 [Simon Holdsworth] Prepare a version of the JMS
Testcase document with the test assertions as an appendix
20110310-02 [Simon Holdsworth] Prepare a version of the Web services
testcase document with the test assertions as an appendix
20110310-03 [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases
doc described in
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html
anish: 20110310-01 DONE
anish: 30110310-02 DONE
anish: s/3011/2011/
anish: 20110310-03 PENDING
anish: Review of proposals for open issues
anish: 1) Issue 142 is linked to 146
anish:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00015.html
anish: 2) Issue 143 is is JMS equivalent of 142
anish: 3) 146 is about the conformance section in the test case doc
anish: 1) Add related works link to zip file with a description
The Test Suite artifacts relating to this document can be found here:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01.zip
2) Replace conformance section with
The artifacts contained in the
http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01.zip
are considered to be authoritative and take precedence over the
artifacts described in this document.
This specification defines two targets for conformance:
a) WS Binding Testcases
b) Web Service Callback (WSCB) Testcases
An implementation that claims to conform to the requirements of the WS
Binding Testcases MUST be able to run all test cases in Section 2.1 and
Section 2.2, producing the 'Expected Output'.
An implementation that claims to conform to the WSCB Testcases MUST be
able to run all tests in Section 2.3, producing the 'Expected Output' of
each test case.
anish: Simon: would prefer a normative reference instead of an HTTP URL
anish: Mike: the alternative is to include the zip file URL in the
normative reference section, which is messy
anish: Simon: happy to just use the file name in the conformance section
and we already have the URL in the related works section
Simon Holdsworth: Replace that URL with sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases.zip
anish: ... and the file name would not have 'cd01' in it. The latest
version should be sufficient
anish: Mike: fine with it
anish: Anish: in other places we have been careful to point to specific
versions
anish: Simon: related works section would point to a specific zip file
anish: ... but the conformance section would point to the zip file in an
abstract way
anish: ... in the JMS binding when we refer to the XSD file we do it in
a similar way
anish: Topic: issues 147 and 148
anish: Simon: this is about the TAs. The proposal is to merge it with
TCs. I have a proposal for this. Comments received on the poposal.
anish: ... JMS binding TA, we have cut and pasted the normative
statements. With the merge, this is no longer necessary. No other TAs do
that.
anish: ... was considered to be an interim steps
anish: s/steps/step/
anish: ... I would like to remove them and product an updated proposal
anish: Simon: for the WS TA doc there are comments that should be removed
anish: Anish: those comments were for the TC and should be removed
before publication
anish: ACTION: go through Simon's proposal for WS binding TA/TC and see
if all the comments in the TAs have been addressed
anish: Mike: going through the comments, some of them are instructions
to the TC writer, whereas others are potentially issues and should be
raised as such
anish: ... and a whole set of blank comments
anish: Simon: the initial step would be to check that I got the right
version of the TA doc for the merge
anish: ... but fairly certain that I did
anish: Topic: new issues
anish: Simon: one new issue, JMS version of a WS binding issue
anish: Simon: do we need a JMS equivalent of issue 146
anish: ACTION: file a new JMS equivalent of issue 146
anish: Simon: since we are not quorate, can't do more.
anish: Simon: AOB?
anish: no AOB
anish: Meeting adjurned
anish: s/adjurned/adjourned/
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