Re: [soa-rm-ra] random question

[Ken Laskey <klaskey@mitre.org>]

Joe,

But I'm not sure "types" of service providers is relevant.� I look at a service description, decide if the real world effects are what I want (and whether the rest of the execution context stuff can be aligned), and then I proceed with the interaction.� If I ask for information, I don't know (unless I have a business reason for this to be part of my rationale for which service to use) if it is "data" from a database, results from a simulation, or Mechanical Turk.

Ken

On Aug 24, 2006, at 6:33 AM, Chiusano Joseph wrote:

I think it's a question of service providers, but more specifically of what *types* of services. So there can be data service providers, perhaps process service providers (e.g. BPEL-based processes), and perhaps even application service providers in a different sense than the traditional ASP (perhaps service-based applications).

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Joe

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From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org]
Sent: Wed 8/23/2006 10:19 PM
To: Michael Stiefel
Cc: soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] random question

Michael,

My question is whether there are providers in the SOA sense for something other than services.� For example, one could say there are data providers but wouldn't they have their data sources accessed using services?� Does that apply to all providing stakeholders?

Ken

On Aug 23, 2006, at 6:58 PM, Michael Stiefel wrote:

Aren't users of the services stakeholders?

Aren't manufacturers of equipment stakeholders?

Is the government that collects a tax or regulates a stakeholder?

Aren't the "victims" we discussed at the F2F stakeholders as well?

Michael

At 05:57 PM 8/23/2006, Ken Laskey wrote:

Can we have stakeholders who are providers or maintainers of something other than services?� Or, do we assume by the nature of SOA that if you provide something other than a service, that something is a capability that must have a service access, so you always end up a service provider?

Ken

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