invocation lifecycle.� Otherwise, why would anyone build an interface?
If we are being random, a NOP service wouldn�t use data.� But I�m
not quite sure what the real world effect would be either.� But
I�m not sure that we need to worry about service provider types
either because the consumer doesn�t care as long as it meets the
contract.
Steve
Sent: 24 August 2006 17:26
To: Chiusano Joseph; Ken Laskey
Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] random question
Is there any service that does not use data?
D
wrote:
Not types of service providers; service providers that provide
certain types of services (e.g. data service provider = service
provider of data services).
Joe
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Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 8:49 AM
To: Chiusano Joseph
Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] random question
Joe,
But I'm not sure "types" of service providers is relevant.� I look
at a service description, decide if the real world effects are
what I want (and whether the rest of the execution context stuff
can be aligned), and then I proceed with the interaction.� If I
ask for information, I don't know (unless I have a business reason
for this to be part of my rationale for which service to use) if
it is "data" from a database, results from a simulation, or
Mechanical Turk.
Ken
On Aug 24, 2006, at 6:33 AM, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
I think it's a question of� service providers, but more
specifically of what *types* of services. So there� can be data
service providers, perhaps process service providers (e.g.� BPEL-
based processes), and perhaps even application service providers
in a� different sense than the traditional ASP (perhaps service-
based� applications).
Joe
Sent:� Wed 8/23/2006 10:19 PM
To: Michael Stiefel
Subject:� Re: [soa-rm-ra] random question
Michael,
My question is whether there are providers in the SOA sense for
something� other than services.� For example, one could say there
are data providers� but wouldn't they have their data sources
accessed using services?� Does� that apply to all providing
stakeholders?
Ken
On Aug 23, 2006, at 6:58 PM, Michael Stiefel wrote:
Aren't users of the services stakeholders?
Aren't manufacturers of equipment� stakeholders?
Is the government that collects a tax or regulates� a stakeholder?
Aren't the "victims" we discussed at the F2F� stakeholders as well?
Michael
At 05:57 PM 8/23/2006, Ken Laskey wrote:
Can we have stakeholders who are providers or� maintainers of
something other than services?� Or, do we assume by the nature� of
SOA that if you provide something other than a service, that
something� is a capability that must have a service access, so you
always end up a� service provider?
Ken
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