Re: [soa-rm-ra] reaching closure on Action

[Francis McCabe <frankmccabe@mac.com>]

This is a misunderstanding of the counts as relation.
There is no sense in which CA should be thought of as instead of the  
service action.

Essentially there are two 'worlds': the world of communication and the  
world of service action. In the latter world we are concerned with  
services and actions against them. In the world of communication we  
have communication. The counts-as relation allows us to connect the  
two architecturally and conceptually.

Personally, I have come the conclusion that we need both concepts of  
action, and the connection between them. For one thing, when  
discussing MEPs etc., these are concepts at the communication level  
and have no bearing on RWE.

Frank

On Jun 9, 2008, at 10:46 AM, michael.poulin@uk.fid-intl.com wrote:

> If "A valid Communicative Action counts as a Service Action", then a  
> valid Communicative Action may be counted AS or INSTEAD OF the  
> service.
>
> So valid Communicative Action MUST lead to RWE and we return to  
> {service interface = service} logic (i.e. skipping the service per  
> se).
>
> To avoid such misconception, we can just avoid mentioning "A valid  
> Communicative Action counts as a Service Action".
>
> Those who want use it as above, will be free to use it, others -  
> will have the freedom to keep Service Actions separately from the  
> Communicative Action.
>
> - Michael