RE: [soa-rm-ra] Groups - SOA Governance and Management Section (RA Governance Section Structure by RE.doc) uploaded

[Danny Thornton <danny_thornton2@yahoo.com>]

I did not oppose moving P&C to the ownership view as a whole.  I will read Bob's updates this weekend so I can better comment on his updates and how I see that affecting policies and contracts.  

Danny


--- On Fri, 4/24/09, Estefan, Jeff A <jeffrey.a.estefan@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

> From: Estefan, Jeff A <jeffrey.a.estefan@jpl.nasa.gov>
> Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] Groups - SOA Governance and Management Section (RA Governance Section   Structure by RE.doc) uploaded
> To: "soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org" <soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 9:40 AM
> Bob,
> 
> I thought we agreed on the call that we were not in
> objection of potentially doing a wholesale move of the
> Policies & Contracts Model to the Owning SOAs View.  And
> Danny who authored that model I believe did not object. 
> (Danny, please weight in.)
> 
> What we were objecting to was that we feel Policies &
> Contracts (if you'll allow me to use P&C for short)
> are first class concepts that should not get lost or buried
> in the discussion of Governance and Management (G&M). 
> Yes, these P&Cs are absolutely critical to the
> architectural elements of G&M but again, they need to
> stand on their own since they transcend all views.
> 
> My suggestion is to see if we did indeed do a wholesale
> move of the P&C Model to the Owning SOAs View and start
> with that model, followed by the Governance Model, followed
> by the Management Model (or perhaps a combined Governance
> and Management Model), then perhaps you could help with the
> flow of these models and in turn their readability.
> 
> Finally, I should point out that while Gov & Mgmt are
> certainly related, we also don't want to lose sight of
> the notion of services as managed entities; not just talk
> about P&C enforcement.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
>  - J
> 
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