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Subject: [ubl-lsc] LSC Meeting Minutes, 3/4 March 2003
The UBL Liaison Subcommittee met by phone on 3/4 March 2003.
Meeting Logistics:
First meeting 16h00 GMT (8:00 am California time)
Second meeting 00h00 GMT (4:00 pm California time)
International: 646 441 1003
U.S. domestic: 866 680 0148
Participant code: 701188
Agenda:
1. Roll call, approval of minutes
2. New liaison:
Michael Nguyen,
Information Technology Standards Committee of Singapore
3. Calendar review:
http://oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/lsc/calendar.htm
4. UN/CEFACT update
5. NDRSC status report
6. LCSC status report
7. Release of supplementary package
8. Review status
1. Roll call, approval of minutes
Meeting participants: 1st 2nd
Jon Bosak (UBL Liaison SC chair) Y Y
Anne Hendry (Scribe) Y Y
Liaisons
Derek Coleman (RosettaNet) - -
Mark Crawford (UN/CEFACT ATG and X12) Y -
Bill French (EIDX) - -
John Hervey (NACS) - -
Doug Jones (RosettaNet BARD) - -
Kris Ketels (SWIFT) - -
Thomas Lee (ebXML Asia) - -
Richard Mader (ARTS) - -
Charlie Mead (HL7) - -
Sue Probert (UN/CEFACT TBG) Y -
Ray Seddigh (XBRL) - -
Robert Shanbaum (VCA) Y -
Leon Shiman (UIG) - Y
James Whittle (e.centre) - -
Nigel Wooden (ACORD) Y -
Observers/Guests
Tim McGrath (UBL LC SC Chair) - Y
Garret Minakawa - Y
Lisa Seaburg (UBL NDR SC Co-Chair) Y -
'Y' indicates attendance. There is not a quorum present.
2. New liaison
Michael Nguyen has joined the UBL Liaison SC, representing
the Information Technology Standards Committee of Singapore.
3. Calendar
Web Services One, Santa Clara, this week:
Jon will be doing an hour slot tomorrow.
ISO TC 154, San Diego, 7 March:
Mark and Sue will be in attendance, and Mike possibly as well.
VCA meeting, NYC, 20-23 March:
Bob Shanbaum will be attending. The meeting will very likely
focus on UBL - would be a good place to hand out UBL brochures.
Bob mentioned that there is a need for more info - guidance on
how to approach the release. Tim had suggested having specific
meetings with reviewers to offer direct support. Tim would be
available to do this and so would Sue - perhaps others as well.
There will be a general VCA meeting on 20 March, 13:30-16:00 EST.
It was decided that Sue could attend a one-hour slot at 14:00 EST.
The call number for today's meeting will be used, and Bob will set
up speaker phone access.
NIST, Maryland, May 6-7:
This meeting has been moved to the end of May;
Mark Crawford will attend.
ACORD, Orlando, 18-20 May:
Arofan is taking part in one of the panels;
Nigel will print out latest copy of brochures and distribute.
XBRL, Amsterdam, 19 - 22 May:
Ray is scheduled to attend.
Web Services / XML Expo, Toronto, 27-29 May:
Sang Shin will talk about UBL and XML.
X12, Nashville, June 1-6:
Leon Shiman will attend.
ACORD, Scottsdale, 22-25 June:
Nigel may attend. Dan Vint will be there.
Extreme Markup, Montreal, 4-8 August:
We should submit papers - first deadline is a month away.
This would be an excellent opportunity to have Eduardo and/or
Arofan speak, since the NDR work would be wrapping up.
4. UN/CEFACT update
We are expecting further communication subsequent to their San Diego
meeting.
5. NDR status
Submissions are due in to Mark to today. NDR is preparing to release
the next version of their work at at the London F2F. Dan and Nigel
are currently looking at the 0p70 release, hoping to have comments
back next week. Their review is concentrating on reusable components.
Bob is getting started on this.
X12 input will go through Mark.
Sue commented that there are other meetings going on to align UBL
with other industry efforts. Jon suggested that we broaden future
meeting discussions with liaisons to include information about
current events in their industry related to UBL.
6. LCSC status
Please note that the review closes in 6 weeks.
Tim stated that the quality and content of comments so far is good.
Anne is point of contact for liaison review feedback.
7. Supplementary package
The supplementary package is now available. It provides two full
examples of trading scenarios as well as stylesheets to produce both
printed and on-line versions of UBL documents. There are both XSLT
and XSL-FO stylesheets rendering both classic (vanilla) and
UN Layout Key forms.
8. Review status
We have had a few responses, such as from Dan Vint of ACORD. His
comments were very useful. Reminders have gone out to most of the
rest of the liaisons. Most people are installing and trying it out.
We have 6 weeks as of today left in the review period. Anyone that
needs additional information in order to proceed can contact this
team to set up specific meetings to walk through the release with
other industry members (e.g. at upcoming industry meetings).
9. Next meeting will take place on 7/8 April 2003.
Tentatively scheduled future meetings are: 5/6 May 2003, 2/3 June 2003
Adjourn: 16:55 GMT
------------------------------ Second Meeting --------------------------
Meeting Logistics:
Time: 00h00 GMT (4:00 pm California time)
See above for call in numbers, roll call, and agenda.
Additional discussion:
3. Calendar
Garret:
Upcoming OAG quarterly meetings to be added to calendar:
15 - 18 April, Washington, D.C.
12 - 14 August, Detroit, Michigan
28 - 30 October, Redwood Shores, California
Leon:
The UIG meets at the X12 meeting in Nashville in June.
Is anyone interested in participating in this session?
Reviewing from last week's meeting, UIG has developed an
extensive collection of transaction sets for managing
deregulated energy, implementation guidelines, and
preliminary XML documents. It would be productive to
review those and spend 1/2 - 1 day with someone deeply
familiar with the UBL framework.
This falls in line with Tim's proposal and willingness to have
UBL SC members be available to walk through the review package.
Tim add to tomorrow's LCSC agenda to see if someone can attend.
Tim: 3d Annual OpenPublish meeting, organized by IDEAlliance.
IDEAlliance manages PapiNet, so this would be of interest to UBL.
The deadline for submissions is next week. Tim will look into it.
Next UBL Plenary will be 28 July - 1 Aug.
The proposed (but not yet completely finalized) location is Montreal.
7. Supplementary package now available.
In the supplementary material we answered the call for examples: there
are now two representative trading scenario examples available in the
supplementary materials.
These come complete with diagrams and sample documents. There is also
a set of stylesheets for printed and on-line versions of UBL documents,
XSLT and XSL-FO stylesheets to demonstrate document presentation in both
classic (vanilla) and UN Layout Key forms. Also included is a Java JAR
standalone implementation of the XSLT and XSL-FO stylesheets. Jacek
Ambroziak has applied UBL-HTML XSLT transforms, compiled into Java
routines, to produce HTML from UBL according to these stylesheets.
He has provided a screenshot, included in the download package,
of UBL Despatch Advice running on a Zaurus PDA: this is not HTML
being sent to the PDA, but being generated locally on the PDA,
which creates interesting possibilities with document work flow,
possible because of the document heritage built into UBL.
8. Adjourned: 00:55 GMT
Action Items
------------
20030303-01: Jon add ongoing agenda item to discuss activities in liaison
industries, not limit discussions to UBL release review.
20030303-02: Tim add UIG meeting to tomorrow's LCSC agenda to get
commitment
on resource for walk-through during 1st week of June, M-W.
20030303-03: Calendar (Anne):
ping Eduardo/Arofan on Extreme Markup attendance;
check on OpenPublish dates;
let Dan know about brochure and walk-through for ACORD,
Scottsdale;
add UIG meeting;
change RosettaNet meeting dates;
other minor changes as noted
20030303-04: Anne send follow-up reminder review email at end of week.
20030303-05: Jon send mail on August Plenary location.
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