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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 30 October 2013 15:00UTC
MINUTES OF ATLANTIC UBL TC TELECONFERENCE WEDNESDAY 30 OCTOBER 2013 15:00UTC
ATTENDANCE
Atlantic teleconference:
Oriol Bausà
Peter Borresen
Kees Duvekot
G. Ken Holman (convener)
Ole Madsen
Pacific teleconference attendance:
Kenneth Bengtsson
G. Ken Holman (convener)
Tim McGrath
Andy Schoka
STANDING ITEMS
Additions to the calendar:
- none
Review of Pacific call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201310/msg00010.html
Review of Atlantic call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201310/msg00008.html
Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/roster.php?num_items=80
- voting status is determined by the following:
- existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to
maintain voting status
- non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain
voting status
- what can we do to recruit more volunteers to the TC to share
in the work?
UBL 2.1 Status
- the OASIS membership ballot for OASIS is underway:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201310/msg00004.html
- the publicly-visible link for the ballot is:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ballot.php?id=2527
- the ballot ends at the end of November 4, 2013
- if you know the primary or alternate representative of an OASIS member
organization, then please bring this voting link to their attention:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/voting/ballot.php?id=2527
- Jon Bosak has prepared a message emailed to the representatives, a
public version of which has been posted as a status of the project:
http://ubl.xml.org/news/vote-begins-on-ubl-21-as-an-oasis-standard
- the question came up regarding citing UBL 2.1, and the two links to
use are persistent regardless of the release level of UBL 2.1:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-2.1.html
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-2.1.pdf
UBL 2.1 UML and ASN.1 Committee Notes
- ASN.1:
- the voted package for ASN.1 schemas is posted here:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=51123
- the request has been filed for this package to be mounted:
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-1494
- UML:
- the voted package for UML diagrams is posted here:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=51124
- the request has been filed for this package to be mounted:
https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/TCADMIN-1495
- the question came up regarding citing these notes, and the following
links are persistent:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-2.1-ASN.1/v1.0/UBL-2.1-ASN.1-v1.0.html
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-2.1-ASN.1/v1.0/UBL-2.1-ASN.1-v1.0.pdf
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-2.1-UML/v1.0/UBL-2.1-UML-v1.0.html
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-2.1-UML/v1.0/UBL-2.1-UML-v1.0.pdf
UBL TC next steps
- what promotional issues need to be addressed?
- UBL 2 is an organic thing that can be grown
- what do we do for implementation support?
- should we write a companion document of how to use the specification?
- industry-specific documentation?
- make it easier to find what is relevant without changing the actual
specification
- what about updating the International Data Dictionary?
- who can we find to help with this?
- Multi-stakeholder Forum on ICT Standardization
- addressing commission's new more open policy on open standards
including OASIS, W3C, IETF, etc.
- this could include sanctioning of UBL as a standard for use in
Europe
- what subject matter issues need to be addressed?
- communications with outsourcing warehouses
- more transportation co-ordination issues
- communications with transportation regulatory organizations
- what technical issues need to be addressed?
- are any schema changes needed?
- at the least we need to publish the NDR as soon as possible
- what educational materials need to be made available?
SBSC
- should we revive the SBSC?
- https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ubl-sbsc
- can someone take on the chairmanship of this subcommittee?
- Atlantic Call 2013-10-23:
- based on a discussion was held regarding the handling issues
of UBL because of its size: problems with vendor tools, problems
with comprehension, etc.
- Pacific Call 2013-10-30:
- it was raised that if the objective of the effort is educational
then the SBSC has the wrong charter
- that was responded to with the comment that the charter of actually
creating a small business subset for small business to use off the
shelf
- the claim is that SBSC couldn't fulfill the charter because there
is no common subset as small businesses in different contexts would
have different contents; what if it is incompatible with existing
widely-deployed subsets such as the BII Profiles?
- if what we want is to demonstrate how to create a customization,
then we can do that as an extension of the customization guidelines
but not through the SBSC
- small businesses come on board through their service providers or
industry associations, not directly themselves, and so the effort
should not be focused on the small businesses but on the providers
of services to small businesses
- how do we support a group who wants to use UBL in a context where
UBL is not already being used (so as not to create something
incompatible with what exists)?
- we can't have the committee produce something where people are
saying that existing implementations can be accused of creating
something that isn't compatible with the committee creates
- keep the SBSC shelved for now and add to the list of next steps an
item regarding education
TC CONCALL SCHEDULE
Our regular UTC times are now shifted due to daylight savings time changes,
but note that the local time on the clock is unchanged from before:
Pacific call date/time: Wednesdays 01:00UTC
Atlantic call date/time: Wednesdays 15:00UTC
(Note the Pacific call takes place Tuesday evenings west of the
Atlantic Ocean)
Next meetings:
2013-11-06 - 01:00UTC and 15:00UTC (after time change in North America)
2013-11-20 - 01:00UTC and 15:00UTC
2013-12-04 - 01:00UTC and 15:00UTC
2013-12-11 - 01:00UTC and 15:00UTC
2013-12-18 - 01:00UTC and 15:00UTC
Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For
privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.
TC calendar:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
TC calendar iCal subscription link:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50
OTHER BUSINESS
- none
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