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[Gershon Janssen]

Draft minutes of the TC meeting are available at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-calendar/download.php/36828/ Minutes_WS-Calendar-TC_20100305_Draft.txt Regards, Gershon Janssen --- DRAFT MINUTES Web Services Calendar (WS-Calendar) TC 05 March 2010 12:00pm ET, 06:00pm CET Call-In Information: Participant passcode: 9959640 United States Toll free 1-866-966-1834 Canada Toll free 1-866-925-0814 Germany Toll free 0800 673 8261 Germany Local rate 03030 019 0714 Netherlands Toll free 0800 022 9107 Netherlands Local rate 020 708 50 76 United Kingdom Toll free 0 800 970 2702 United Kingdom Local Rate 0845 051 8050 Generic International +44 208 323 1234 Note: not all toll free numbers allow for mobile phones. *6 mute/un-mute, *4 adjust the call volume, *0 operator Gershon Janssen is hosting the teleconference number for this meeting. NEW ACTION ITEMS: AI20100305-001 - Toby Considine: Request Jira access for the TC Issues list AI20100305-002 - Toby Considine: Update TC homepage AI20100305-003 - William Cox: create a draft FAQ AI20100305-004 - Carl Mattocks: contribute uses cases on ebXML RegReg AI20100305-005 - William Cox: send a draft overview of more detailed tasks for the TC to the list Scribe: Gershon Janssen 0. Roll call, Agenda review Meeting Attendees Name Company Status ----- ------- ------ Ed Koch Akuacom Inc. Group Member David Thewlis CalConnect Group Member Carl Mattocks CheckMi* Group Member William Cox Cox Software Architects LLC Group Member Gershon Janssen Individual Group Member Robert Old Siemens AG Group Member Brad Benson Trane Group Member Michel Kohanim Universal Devices, Inc. Group Member Toby Considine University of North Carolina Group Member Agenda for this meeting is approved without changes. 1. Minutes Approval Meeting minutes of 26 February 2010 (http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-calendar/download.php/36691 /Minutes_WS-Calendar-TC_20100226_Draft.txt)are approved unanimously. 2. FYI / announcements from Chair, Secretary, Liaison No announcements or information to share from chair, secretary, liaison. 3. Open Action Item Review and Discussion - AI20100226-001 - William Cox: Post links to PAP04 and WS-Calendar webinar Information has been sent to list; action item completed. - AI20100226-002 - Jeremy Roberts, Gershon Janssen: Investigate possibilities to host conference line Information has been provided to chair; action item completed. 4. Discuss issues * Issue process William Cox: Don't know how to track issues - suggestions welcome. William Cox: ACTION TOBY request Jira access for the TC Issues list * Moin-Moin Wiki TC sees no need for a Wiki page yet, though the TC home page and an FAQ would be beneficial. William Cox: B: suggest the home page; Bill volunteers for FAQ William Cox: ACTION TOBY update home page William Cox: ACTION BILL draft FAQ * Mail from Toby (http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-calendar/email/archives/201 003/msg00000.html) William Cox: T: Posted a link to a crude sketch of some issues that illustrate thinking about where ws-calendar might be. Given that we're starting off, worth talking about. William Cox: See mail link. William Cox: T: How would you use WS-Calendar in the smart grid. Tells us something about the effects, or what it needs to look like. William Cox: T: Clearly a lot of reasons - necessary and useful in a lot of spaces. SG in the US has driven attention. More, different than what iCalendar is ("here's some text, it happens at 3pm tomorrow", put it on your calendar and see if you have two of them) (overstated) William Cox: T: Subtle issues - a task that may have complex ways to satisfy. William Cox: T: As I look at it, if I bring somethign to market in the energy world, might have a one hour window this afternoon ...(see (1)(A) - won't type it. William Cox: T: Manufacturing sched has changed, willing to entertain bids for power I[ve already bought. William Cox: T: Spec of tomorrow, time range, calendar elements that occur mutliple times. William Cox: T: Simple, but differs from one event, once. William Cox: T: Important in the financial world where a lot of trans had to be done by COB on the trading floor, but now 7x24, multiple countries, when is "COB". William Cox: T: Execute conract - Joe can have my power tomorrow afternoon. William Cox: T: MOre nuanced form - industrial energy intensive process (may be the single largest cost). William Cox: T: If I do 8 hour shift, I might know the contour during the day. William Cox: T: May bid in advance a number of time sequences. William Cox: T: Series of levels and times and sequences. Trying to decide whether to call in workforce for early morning or earlyh evening, bid both. William Cox: EdK: Question about the current ws-cal spec. Mechs in place to partition? (iCalendar?) William Cox: EdK: iCalendar, xCalendar? William Cox: T: iCalendar doesn't have that; xCalendar is working on that (weekly meetings). Call it all iCalendar. William Cox: EdK; partitioning time period into consecutive slots is common in our worlds. Differs from conecutive time periods. William Cox: T: Not just consecutive - degnerate form is one timeslot (per Bill Cox). William Cox: T: "Must have done in 15 minutes after which I'll send you a message" - might be in BPEL4People as well, rel to energy. William Cox: T: Not well edited sequence. Toby Considine: WTC+ WIth a time is given, Semantic of time for beginning, time fo rstarts. What are we specifcying William Cox: B: time of start, time of completion, interval for completion William Cox: T: What is the interval - is start time when people start thinking about dialing in , or finish dialing in. William Cox: T: Next section - give me 20 minutes notice. Series of time intervals, that become part of a contract. May include being paid for standby and/or delivery of power. Offer to market in automated way, have market be able to understand and place bbids in an automated way, and later the performance. William Cox: T: Might use again and again in the same transac tion. William Cox: T: Business schedule heating/cooling/processing and tie to enterprise/business functions. William Cox: T: Hope for some obix use cases. William Cox: T: Not a lot of enthusiams yet. Say that teh conference room is in use from 2-3pm tomorrow...use to schedule. William Cox: T: Now in scenario/req 3 - std ent and building interaction. William Cox: T: Just gone through scenario A. William Cox: T: Scenario B: William Cox: T: Ask each building element (that know what bus service they're supporting) how much power they can give up. Bid back into energy markets. William Cox: T: Two way conversation - schedule oriented. William Cox: T: Classroom scheduling person - know how many people at what times. William Cox: CarlM: Reference time, may not solve the problems of federated registrrars and repositories. William Cox: T: Love to have (ebXML RegReg) use cases - the more and the earlier the better. William Cox: Carl: One of that TC's use cases is to support the service of OGB (Geospatial practice). Profiles are being used by many orgs doing optimizations - of operations and space surrounding. Ability to synchronize time. William Cox: T: Is this a suggestion to reach out to the SensorML crowd? William Cox: Carl: Yes, adopted RegReg v3 as underlying technology, continuing discussions as we work on version 4. William Cox: Carl: That crowd is very interestedd in how registry is evolved. * Editing subcommittee William Cox: B: Editing SC or work group. William Cox: T: If someone has a burning need, speak out. William Cox: DT: I think you're talking about ??Paul?? What do you want edited? William Cox: DT: Have to ask him, as far as I understand it waiting for approval from OASIS primary to join the committee. Won't get far asking before. William Cox: T: If end up with a common editor for xCalendar and WS-Calendar, even if one of us has to step forward, whole lot less risk of std forking, good in a lot of ways. William Cox: T: May not be experienced at editing OASIS stds, need assistance. William Cox: T: Reach deep into your souls. 5. Any Other Business? * Planning William Cox: ACTION BILL Strawman of more detailed task - next meeting discusswion, send to the list. 6. Adjourn William Cox: Motion to Adjourn - Bill, Gershon second. William Cox: T: Adjourned. Always slow to start; will have a new LonMark phone number for next week.