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Subject: Re: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer
Dieter, As said in the call, I am fine with this proposal. Thanks Khanderao Dieter Koenig1 wrote: > Hi Khanderao, as discussed on the call - let's prepare two separate > deliverables: the Primer and an FAQ for the announcement. > > Kind Regards > DK > > Dieter K�nig Mail: dieterkoenig@de.ibm.com IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH > > Senior Technical Staff Member Tel (office): (+49) 7031-16-3426 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > Johann Weihen > > Architect, Business Process Fax (office): (+49) 7031-16-4890 Gesch�ftsf�hrung: Herbert Kircher > Choreographer > > Member, Technical Expert Council Tel (home office): (+49) 7032-201464 Sitz der Gesellschaft: B�blingen > > Sch�naicher Strasse 220, 71032 Registergericht: Amtsgericht > B�blingen, Germany Stuttgart, HRB 243294 > > > > > > > > > > Khanderao Kand > <khanderao.kand@o > racle.com> To > Dieter Koenig1/Germany/IBM@IBMDE > 04.04.2007 00:23 cc > John Evdemon > <John.Evdemon@microsoft.com>, > "charlton_b@mac.com" > <charlton_b@mac.com>, "'Dieter > Koenig'" > <dieterkoenig1@de.ibm.com>, Diane > Jordan <drj@us.ibm.com>, > "wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-open.org > " > <wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-open.org > > > Subject > Re: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > In last week's conference call, I volunteered to screen follow-up > questions from webinars to make a FAQ doc. I am attaching a doc with > selected questions. Please add/delete questions. > > We can update WS-Primer or as Dieter said, we can make a separate > document for QA. > > Thanks > Khanderao > > Dieter Koenig1 wrote: > >> Actually, the more I think about this I come to the conclusion that a Q&A >> is really a publication collateral and *not* a part of a primer document. >> We should definitely not talk about the other BPEL* extensions in the >> primer - only about extensibility in general as we do it in chapter 6. >> >> Kind Regards >> DK >> >> > > >> Dieter K�nig Mail: dieterkoenig@de.ibm.com >> > IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH > > > >> Senior Technical Staff Member Tel (office): (+49) 7031-16-3426 >> > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: > > Johann Weihen > > > >> Architect, Business Process Fax (office): (+49) 7031-16-4890 >> > Gesch�ftsf�hrung: Herbert Kircher > >> Choreographer >> > > > > >> Member, Technical Expert Council Tel (home office): (+49) >> > 7032-201464 Sitz der Gesellschaft: B�blingen > > > >> Sch�naicher Strasse 220, 71032 >> > Registergericht: Amtsgericht > >> B�blingen, Germany >> > Stuttgart, HRB 243294 > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> John Evdemon >> > > >> <John.Evdemon@mic >> > > >> rosoft.com> >> > To > >> Khanderao Kand >> > > >> 28.03.2007 18:43 <khanderao.kand@oracle.com>, Diane >> > > >> Jordan <drj@us.ibm.com> >> > > > cc > >> "charlton_b@mac.com" >> > > >> <charlton_b@mac.com>, "'Dieter >> > > >> Koenig'" >> > > >> <dieterkoenig1@de.ibm.com>, >> > > > "wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-open.org > >> " >> > > > <wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-open.org > >> > >> > > > Subject > >> RE: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> I initially included BPEL-J so that people would not assume it was part >> > of > >> the spec. We may want to include BPEL4People and BPEL4Sub-Processes >> > for > >> the same reason. >> What do you all think? >> >> I forgot about the call this morning - please accept my apologies for >> having missed the discussion. >> >> John >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Khanderao Kand [mailto:khanderao.kand@oracle.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 6:37 AM >>> To: Diane Jordan >>> Cc: charlton_b@mac.com; 'Dieter Koenig'; [email protected] >>> open.org >>> Subject: Re: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer >>> >>> Hi Diane >>> >>> Here is the updated primer (Not yet checked in. I would check in after >>> today's meeting). >>> >>> Changes: (I kept the change tracking on). >>> I updated the first and third chapter. In the third chapter, I added a >>> process flow diagram by reverse engineering some examples from the >>> seventh chapter. However, if I get the complete process, I can re-draw >>> the process. I also changed the partnerlink's diagram from the forth >>> chapter. BTW since BPEL-J is not standardized, do we need to add the >>> relationship with BPEL-J? Ayway, I added some more text for BPEL-J. >>> >>> Minor edits: >>> 1. Changed copyright year from 2006 to 2007 2. Changed date in the >>> footer. >>> 3. Added my name and email in editors section. >>> >>> I would now need to work on chapter 4 and 5. >>> BTW since different editors contributed in different section the style >>> and flow is not very consistent. Do we want to make it consistent or >>> just keep it as it is? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Khanderao >>> >>> >>> Diane Jordan wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Thanks Charlton. >>>> >>>> I believe Khanderao should now have the pen. >>>> >>>> We can discuss these questions when we have the Wed call if >>>> >>>> >>> necessary. >>> >>> >>>> Regards, Diane >>>> IBM Emerging Internet Software Standards drj@us.ibm.com >>>> (919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile: 919-624-5123, Fax 845-491-5709 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Charlton Barreto <charlton_b@mac.com>* >>>> >>>> 03/23/2007 03:06 AM >>>> >>>> >>>> To >>>> wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-open.org >>>> cc >>>> "'Dieter Koenig'" <dieterkoenig1@de.ibm.com> >>>> Subject >>>> [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear WS-BPEL Primer SG, >>>> >>>> Attached is a new revision (1.7) of the WS-BPEL Primer >>>> (wsbpel-primer-draft). I have also checked this into CVS. This >>>> revision contains my reorganisation of data in Section 7 to better >>>> combine with the structure in Chapters 4-6. >>>> >>>> There are a number of remaining issues we should resolve in the >>>> >>>> >>> primer: >>> >>> >>>> - Note that I have maintained the captions for the examples in >>>> >>>> >>> Chapter >>> >>> >>>> 7. We need to consider numbering these captions in a consistent >>>> manner. I highly recommend using the [Chapter]-[Example] format >>>> >>>> >>> (where >>> >>> >>>> examples are renumbered for each chapter) so as to make it easier for >>>> readers to follow. >>>> - We need to complete Section 1 >>>> - We still need to write Section 3. >>>> - I've provided an outline for Section 8.1 and will complete it in >>>> >>>> >>> the >>> >>> >>>> next revision >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> -Charlton. >>>> -- >>>> charlton_b@mac.com >>>> +1.650.222.6507 m >>>> +1.415.692.5396 v >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Dieter Koenig1 [mailto:dieterkoenig@de.ibm.com] >>>> Sent: 16 February 2007 05:53 >>>> To: wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-open.org >>>> Cc: Simon D Moser; Diane Jordan >>>> Subject: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer >>>> >>>> Dear WS-BPEL Primer Subgroup, >>>> >>>> Simon and I checked a new revision 1.6 of the WS-BPEL Primer into CVS >>>> (also >>>> attached here). This revision contains substantial updates of the >>>> >>>> >>> concepts >>> >>> >>>> chapters 4-6. We consider chapters 4-6 ready for a review by the >>>> >>>> >>> whole >>> >>> >>>> WS-BPEL TC, which has been originally targeted for the second half of >>>> February. >>>> (See attached file: wsbpel-primer-draft.doc) >>>> >>>> Additional comments: >>>> - All Editors: chapters 1-3, 8, and appendix A do not yet appear to >>>> >>>> >>> be >>> >>> >>>> ready for a TC review. >>>> - Charlton: chapter 7 has a number of places where concepts or even >>>> definitions of WS-BPEL constructs are introduced. We believe that >>>> >>>> >>> concepts >>> >>> >>>> should be explained in chapters 4-6, and Simon and I are committed to >>>> fixing holes there as they are discovered in the TC review. Instead, >>>> >>>> >>> we >>> >>> >>>> think that chapter 7 should focus more on applying these concepts to >>>> >>>> >>> the >>> >>> >>>> concrete business scenario. >>>> >>>> Kind Regards >>>> Dieter and Simon >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > [attachment "WS-BPEL-FAQ.doc" deleted by Dieter Koenig1/Germany/IBM] > >
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