RE: [wsbpel] Topics for the "Review input from TC members" session of the F2FSome

["Satish Thatte" <satisht@microsoft.com>]

I would just say:  an elephant has a tail and a trunk and some legs and a body but there is still an integral elephant in there somewhere .. ;-)

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	From: David RR Webber - XML ebusiness [mailto:Gnosis_@compuserve.com] 
	Sent: Sat 5/24/2003 8:31 AM 
	To: Satish Thatte 
	Cc: Dieter Roller; Marin, Mike; [unknown] 
	Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Topics for the "Review input from TC members" session of the F2FSome
	
	

	We really, really need to get this sorted out!
	
	So far this week I've heard:
	
	BPEL is:
	
	1) A misnomer - its not business facing its just PEL.
	
	2) Needs to solve B2B by providing 'properties' to track
	     state of long running dialogues
	
	3) A web service.
	
	4) Should really be a visual design language
	
	5) Is a virtual Java state machine
	
	Will the real BPEL please stand up?
	
	Maybe we should rename it VSEL - Variety Show Execution Language.
	
	Thanks, DW.
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	Message text written by "Satish Thatte"
	> B2B business
	protocols (e.g. RosettaNet PIPs) have historically tried to build
	reliability into the application protocol because they couldn't count on
	anything else to provide reliability, but we should take advantage of
	the opportunity in the web services space to solve the reliability
	problem separately and therefore more generally for all web services to
	use, not just BPEL processes. 
	
	Satish<
	
	
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