Prelim Minutes of wsrm TC Teleconf 3/6/06

[Tom Rutt <tom@coastin.com>]

Prelim minutes are attached.

Please provide corrections to list before next monday.

Tom Rutt

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Title: WSRM TC Conference Call �3/6/07

Preliminary Minutes �WSRM TC Conference Call � Mar 6, 2007

 

5:30 � 6:30 PM EDT.

 

Textual Conventions

 

�  Action Item

Motion

�    Resolution

1          Draft Agenda:

Agenda ����������

1.      review agenda

2.      Roll Call

3.      Minutes approval

4.      Action Items

5        Review Application Notes Draft for Intelligent appliances

6        Discusssion mechanics of committee future

7        New Business

 

2          Roll Call

Attendance: 

First Name	Last Name	Role	Company
Jacques	Durand	Secretary	Fujitsu Limited*
Kazunori	Iwasa	Voting Member	Fujitsu Limited*
Tom	Rutt	Chair	Fujitsu Limited*
Robert	Freund	Voting Member	Hitachi, Ltd.*
Nobuyuki	Yamamoto	Voting Member	Hitachi, Ltd.*
Paul	Knight	Voting Member	Nortel Networks Limited*
Pete	Wenzel	Voting Member	Sun Microsystems

 

 

Meeting is quorate

 

3          Minutes Discussion

 

Tom Rutt volunteered to take minutes.

 

3.1       Approval of previous meeting minutes

 

The minutes of the Feb 20 teleconference meeting are posted at: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/22749/MinutesWsrmTC-022007.htm���

 

Bob� moved to approve the Feb 20� minutes, Paul K� seconded.

 

No opposition Feb 20� minutes are approved

 

4          Status of Action Items

Action 1: Jacques will post CD for application notes on web site.

Still open Jacques will post on our site and to arrange for OASIS staff to post at correct url..

 

�  New Action Action on Tom is update public site to ensure it has up to date links.

5          Discussion of Application Notes for Information Appliances

Draft Application Notes From Iwasa posted as: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/22720/WS-ReliabilityProfileforInformationAppliancesEnglish1.0-20070305-2.pdf

And source as: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/22719/WS-ReliabilityProfileforInformationAppliancesEnglish1.0.12.doc

 

Iwasa translated the document to English, with only one diagram remaining in Japanese. �He found some portions which need correction, it may be corrected in a short time. �Minor changes only.� The English document is not approved by forum, but the original Japanese document was approved by the Forum.

 

Tom: are there any plans for attaining a formal approval of English translation by forum.

 

Iwasa: There are no plans yet for formal approval of English document.

 

Iwasa: I would like the TC to put the doc on the web site as a reference document � This is a translation of a Japanese document approved by an external forum.

 

Tom: in OSI standards there were Implementation Conformance Statements proforma templates.

 

Jacques: EBXml has deployment Templates for usage profiles for standards.� EbXml has a special TC to work on these, however the original TC defines a template to help users to define deployment profiles for a standard.

 

Jacques: Looking at the document that Iwasa Sent out, it seems to be a deployment profile for ws-reliability.� It could help to have a template.

 

Tom: is the idea to have the tables from Iwasa document with questions to be answered, having empty columns for the deployment choices to be made.

 

Jacques;� While this committee may have difficulty in approving a

 

Bob: looking at the calendar, we have a finite time to complete the committee work.� If we have to do new work, do we have enough time.

 

Tom: could Jacques produce such a template in a short amount of time.

 

Jacques: I do not have enough time over the next week or so to produce such a table.� I would like to ask Iwasa if he thinks such a document would help the forum in Japan.

 

Iwasa: it would be best for our TC to agree to approve the document to be CD at some status. �The content could be updated in time.

 

Jacques: these users could start a new TC to do such a profile, but this TC does not have enough expertise in the domain of use that this profile is describing. �It would be difficult to get the TC to approve such a doc.

 

Bob: this is a work product of another org. �Would it not be better to put it on the web site of that organization, with us putting a link to that organization. �This would avoid converting to OASIS intellectual property.� If this is the work product of the other org, if it can host the translation we could point at it on our website, keeping ownership with the other organization.

 

Iwasa: I think this might be the best way forward at this point.

 

Bob: given the time it is a practical alternative.

 

Paul K: it would work out better, since if it is updated at the other site, our link would still be valid.

 

Iwasa: at this point the other org is preparing the web site.� It is not ready yet. �The latest version could be on our site, with a link to the other site.

 

�Bob F: you would have to be sure that all the copyright is held by the other org.

 

Bob F: they could put an open source style limited licenses or copyright.

 

Tom: When could Iwasa get a stable URI from the organization or a document.�

 

Pete: we need before April 15, because our web content is in stone.

 

Paul K: could Fujitsu give the document to the TC.

 

Jacques: it would still fall under external resources on our web site.

 

Paul K � This could be progressed to CD.

 

Tom: but how can this TC agree on the choices for the Information Applicance.

 

Jacques: could be do a straw poll:

 

Bob F: I have concerns.� This committee is put together on OASIS IPR rules. �I do not know what the IPR rules of the other committee are. �Iwasa may or may not be a representative of another org, if the work is the property of the other org. �We would have to� get OASIS IPR concerns.

 

Iwasa: this was developed by a forum.

 

Bob F: only that org has the right to make contribution to this TC.. If that cannot be done,� recognize as work product of another org, and point to it from our site. �Ideally get a stable URI at the other ORGS web site. �More than that would be straining the OASIS IPR Policy.

 

Tom: with only a month left for this TC, a reference to an external URI would be the best.

 

Bob: could Iwasa determine if they can provide a URI.

 

Iwasa: I will see if that can be done.

 

Bob Then we can provide ref to that org.

 

Tom we can readdress this at our next meeting in two weeks.� Then we can place a holder in our Web site to an information page which points to the actual documents.

6          Discussion of Committee Future

We are talking about dissolving the tc before the IPR transition deadline.

Teleconf on March 20 to finalize the tC.

7          New Business

Every member should be a public web site reviewer. �Mail editorial issues to list.� The public site will be all that is available after April 15.

Members should send email from now until next meeting.� ��We will discuss proposed changes to the public site at next meeting.

Bob moved to adjourn, seconded by Paul K.