[wsrp][markup] Minutes for 5/22/02 conference call

Sub-Committee Lead

Chris Braun

Attending Members:

Gino Filicetti

David Taieb

Jane Dynan

Rich Thompson

Thomas Schaeck

Carsten Leue

TJ Cox (SilverStream)

Jeff Broberg

1.� Disallowed/Discouraged Markup Tags

xforms:model is currently required to belong to the <head> tag per the latest xforms draft spec

� Discussion.�

o xforms:model is currently required to belong to the <head> tag per the latest xforms draft spec Recommendation return this to Xforms Group � should be able to be placed anywhere within an XHTML document.� Preferably directly preceding the form. Rich T. will follow up with XForms Group.

o Portlet�s may be included within a consumer using frames or iframes.� We still need to discourage certain markup to make sure all portlets can also be embedded as fragments within a containing markup page.

o Add iframe as a discouraged tag for portlet content markup.

o Discourage: Statement of compatibility; suggests tags are discouraged but won�t break or render portal page.

o Disallowed � guarantee to break in some or most consumer containers.

o Reiterated that it�s not the consumer�s responsibility to validate against disallowed and discouraged tags.� Not requirement. Consumer may choose not to do this.

2.� Review current list of CSS styles (still collecting documents; this discussion will be on going):

� Links:� Always use custom classes?�� Discussion.� Remove proposed tags.� Use default A tag to affect the anchor links of a portlet.� No real reason to have all portlet links differ from the pages links.

� Fonts: �Decided that font, font-error, font-info, font-dim should be enough.� If portlet wish to differentiate themselves from the base sets they can use styles to change sizes, colors, etc.� For example <div class=�wsia-font-error� style=�font-size: larger�> uses the standard error font but makes it one step larger.

Contact Alan Kropp.� Intentions of WSUI and what does ok mean.

We assume that we are on the right track with ok directly correlating to info.

� Tables:� Decided to use wsia-table-row� and wsia-table-row-alternate and instead of wsia-table-row-odd and wsia-table-even.

Need to decide if it is worthwhile to have a custom class for table.� Example: It may be worthwhile for all portlets to have a similar background image for a result set style table.� Need to come to a consensus here.

2.a.� Defer the discussion, due to time.� This will to be an on going discussion.� Updated version will be sent out this week.

3.� Markup Fragment �Decomposition.� Aggregation of markup fragments (header, footer, toolbar, body, etc.).

� Initial spec will include ability to append markup to the <head> and <body>.�

� The portlet content markup is automatically assumed to be appended to the containing pages <body> tag?

� Have to decide where the non-body markup such as <head> is placed and how the aggregator can consume it.

� Need to make this extensible so that other tags can be supported.� Need more discussion on this topic.

� The portlet�s content should be separate rather than having different blocks of mark up.� Each piece of markup (head, body, etc) should come back separately.

� Since some tags may be disallowed within the body but may be allowed in the head we need to revisit the disallowed/discouraged list and break them out per containing tag.

� Are there other tags that a portlet may need access to?� We should try to come up with some valid use cases and make sure that the <head> tag is enough.

� HTML perspective at this point.� Might find this different on other markups Concentrate on two elements for now.

� How the mark up is included in page � multiple portlets appending to head?� Consumer can aggregate page as they see fit.� No reason to set a standard on this at this time.� Implementation specific.

4.� The meeting started late due to the late running of the wsrp-security meeting.� Need to make sure that the security meeting finishes on-time so that we can start and finish on-time.

6.� Meeting schedule for next Wednesday, May 29^th.

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