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Event Title: XLIFF TC Meeting Date: Tuesday, 05 January 2016, 11:00am to 12:00pm EST Description Please get the dial in information from our private Action Item here: This meeting counts towards voter eligibility. Agenda I Administration (0:00 - 0:10) B. Approve meeting minutes, 15 December 2015 D. Requesting progress of ISO submision of XLIFF 2.0 F. Okapi XLIFF Toolkit 1.1 Available (Yves) G. XLIFF Support - Survey (Lucía) II XLIFF 2.1 (0:10 - 0:45) * indicates new topic, not yet discussed A. Discuss whether can be allowed at all extension points (Ryan) D. Add N Constraint to the core order attribute E. Template/Model for TBX Mapping with XLIFF v2.0 and Higher Version 1.0 (DavidF) F. ITS storage size restriction G. Mistakes in the spec (Soroush) Q. CTR test suite files R. Preserving spaces inline (Yves) S. * Inline codes in Change Tracking (Yves) U. * XLIFF and ITS mapping- Elements within text (Soroush) / in mtc and ctr modules (Yves)
III Sub Committee Report (0:45 - 0:55)
IV Current and New Business (0:55 - Minutes I Administration (0:00 - 0:10) A. Roll call David F, Bryan, Felix S, Phil, Fredrik E, Lucia, Tom DF: Quorum achieved B. Approve meeting minutes, 15 December 2015 https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201512/msg00032.html B: Moves to approve minutes from last meeting DF: Seconded No objections, motion carries. C. Revise scheduled for XLIFF 2.1 https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201504/msg00009.html https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201504/msg00014.html D. Requesting progress of ISO submision of XLIFF 2.0 https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201506/msg00002.html https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201511/msg00002.html B: Update on progress, next meeting for ISO TC is Copenhagen in June. Need to have XLIFF on the agenda. This is first opportunity to formalize/approve. F. Okapi XLIFF Toolkit 1.1 Available (Yves) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201512/msg00009.html G. XLIFF Support - Survey (Lucía) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201512/msg00023.html L: Only one response from TC members, no issues with questions. Some questions only applicable to applications and not to libraries. Survey will be opened for the public. Probably at the end of this week or early next. B: Urges TC to fill it out. FE: Propose add question on tool type: Application or Library DF: Agree Lucia: Need as much feedback on questions as possible before making it public. II XLIFF 2.1 (0:10 - 0:45) B: Should we keep the action items in the agenda or should we move the action items to Kavi for better tracking. DF: Suggest moving items not needing more discussion to Kavi keep those that need discussion in the agenda. B: Propose move: C, D, E, F, P, Q, T, DF: Also X DF: Put forward motion to vote on E should be moved to the sister committee B: Confirm proposal to is to move E to sister committee instead of KAvi item DF: confirm B: Second ballot to move DF: yes, FE: yes FS: yes L: yes, P: yes B: yes T: yes Motion to move item E to sister commitee is approved unanimously. B: Any other housekeeping needed on AIs * indicates new topic, not yet discussed A. Discuss whether can be allowed at all extension points (Ryan) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201506/msg00013.html B. Inline attributes and canCopy (Ryan) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201506/msg00015.html C. Typo in example (4.3.1.10 dataRefEnd) (Yves) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201506/msg00022.html [pending AI, DF to fix] D. Add N Constraint to the core order attribute [pending AI for dF. DF will make a CFD for this on mailing list. This has been now sufficiently discussed.] E. Template/Model for TBX Mapping with XLIFF v2.0 and Higher Version 1.0 (DavidF) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00091.html [pending AI for Fredrik] F. ITS storage size restriction [pending AI for dF and Fredrik - Fredrik to propose slr profile for ITS storage size data category] G. Mistakes in the spec (Soroush) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201502/msg00009.html B: Propose to move to Kavi AI DF: Agree H. NVDL for the core is updated (Soroush) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201503/msg00009.html I. NVDL validation for XLIFF 2.0 (Soroush) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201509/msg00002.html J. * Comment on 2.1 draft (Yves) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201509/msg00023.html K. * CanReorder Validation error (Ryan) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201509/msg00031.html L. * ITS text analytics (David) M. Internationalization and beyond related metadata for JSON - XLIFF perspective? (Felix) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201510/msg00006.html P: Status of Text analytics. DF: Should be mostly ready in working draft. Would be good to test implementability. N. * Question on namespace re-writing and ITS text analysis (Felix) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201511/msg00013.html O. * Proposal For Change Tracking in XLIFF 2.1 (Phil) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201511/msg00024.html P. Errors in test suite for Change Tracking module (Yves) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201511/msg00026.html [pending AI - Bryan to fix] Q. CTR test suite files https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201511/msg00027.html [pending AI - Bryan to fix] R. Preserving spaces inline (Yves) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201512/msg00008.html [pending AI for Yves: Need to describe the best practice in the spec. It needs some normative language to obtain predictable results. Probably the best to address would be a note or a warning in core and just quote it in the ITS description, because the issue is not ITS specific, ITS just used xml:space. We need to have somebody to write the text that is spec ready.] S. * Inline codes in Change Tracking (Yves) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201512/msg00010.html T. Implementing XLFF 2.0 test suite files (Ryan) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201512/msg00019.html [pending AI - Bryan fix module errors in test suite; Yves fix core - rule, only one error per file] U. * XLIFF and ITS mapping- Elements within text (Soroush) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201512/msg00033.html V. * XLIFF and ITS mapping-ID value (Soroush) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201512/msg00034.html W. * Inline IDs in <source>/<target> in mtc and ctr modules (Yves) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201512/msg00046.html B: Several new items. Severity on issue and urgency to resolve. DF: Issue is with inline code IDs in different modules. Right now IDs must be unique across modules and core. FE: How could we enforce uniqueness between core and modules DF: Agrees that main issue is with core tools that dont support the module Proposes solution that modules are allowed to have same IDs in modules as in core. FE: Agree DF: Soroush will have to look at the implementation in validator. DF: Need to look into the impact before implemented. DF: No fragment ID for embedded namespaces. This was know, now how will it impact new situation if we allow duplication. FE: Main issue for me is that Core only tools must be able to work and not break files. B: Ambiguous fragment IDs would be a bad thing. DF: That is not an issue right now as we do not allow fragment IDs pointing from core to modules due to not supporting embedded namespaces. Changing fragment ID system would be a big change. DF: As P if this will this impact implementation of change track / matches. P: Does not have enough background to answer now. For CTR it would be much better to not have to change IDs. FE: Agree DF: What should we propose? P: Allowing duplicates in modules seems the best solution. DF: Need to look at how it will work in validation. B: Continue discussion on mailing list and input from other stakeholders. X. * Wrong title example in section 5.9.6.5 (Yves) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201512/msg00048.html III Sub Committee Report (0:45 - 0:55) B: Asks for report DF: Most urgent is to get more feedback and TC members to fill out questionnaire. Proposed to wait for next meeting to make the questionnaire public. Also asks for submissions for Feisgiltt from TC or others. Deadline will be extended. Link: http://locworld.com/feisgiltt2016-cfp/ IV Current and New Business (0:55 - B: next meeting jan 19th, thank you everyone Owner: Bryan Schnabel Group: OASIS XML Localisation Interchange File Format (XLIFF) TC Sharing: This event is shared with the OASIS Open (General Membership), and General Public groups. Public Event Link
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DESCRIPTION:Please get the dial in information from our private Action I
tem here:\nhttps://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xli
ff/members/action_item.php?action_item_id=3663\n\nAgenda: I
Administration (0:00 - 0:10)\n A. Roll call\n\n B. Approve
meeting minutes\, 15 December 2015\n https://lists.oasi
s-open.org/archives/xliff/201512/msg00032.html\n \n C.
Revise scheduled for XLIFF 2.1 \n https://lists.oasis
-open.org/archives/xliff/201504/msg00009.html\n https://
lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201504/msg00014.html\n\n
D. Requesting progress of ISO submision of XLIFF 2.0\n
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201506/msg00002
.html\n https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/2015
11/msg00002.html\n\n F. Okapi XLIFF Toolkit 1.1 Available (
Yves)\n https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/2015
12/msg00009.html\n\n G. XLIFF Support - Survey (Lucí\
;a)\n https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201512
/msg00023.html\n\nII XLIFF 2.1 (0:10 - 0:45)\n\n* indicates
new topic\, not yet discussed\n\n A. Discuss whether can be
allowed at all extension points (Ryan)\n https://lists.
oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201506/msg00013.html\n B. Inl
ine attributes and canCopy (Ryan)\n https://lists.oasis-
open.org/archives/xliff/201506/msg00015.html\n C. Typo in e
xample (4.3.1.10 dataRefEnd) (Yves)\n https://lists.oasi
s-open.org/archives/xliff/201506/msg00022.html\n[pending AI\
, DF to fix]\n\n D. Add N Constraint to the core order attr
ibute\n \n[pending AI for dF. DF will make a CFD for th
is on mailing list. This has been now sufficiently discussed
.]\n\n E. Template/Model for TBX Mapping with XLIFF v2.0 an
d Higher Version 1.0 (DavidF)\n https://lists.oasis-open
.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00091.html\n[pending AI for Fr
edrik]\n\n F. ITS storage size restriction\n[pending AI for
dF and Fredrik - Fredrik to propose slr profile for ITS sto
rage size data category]\n\n G. Mistakes in the spec (Sorou
sh)\n https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201502
/msg00009.html\n H. NVDL for the core is updated (Soroush)\
n https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201503/msg
00009.html\n I. NVDL validation for XLIFF 2.0 (Soroush)\n
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201509/msg000
02.html\n J. * Comment on 2.1 draft (Yves)\n https://li
sts.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201509/msg00023.html\n K.
* CanReorder Validation error (Ryan)\n https://lists.oa
sis-open.org/archives/xliff/201509/msg00031.html\n L. * ITS
text analytics (David)\n M. Internationalization and beyon
d related metadata for JSON - XLIFF perspective? (Felix)\n
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201510/msg000
06.html\n N. * Question on namespace re-writing and ITS tex
t analysis (Felix)\n https://lists.oasis-open.org/archiv
es/xliff/201511/msg00013.html\n O. * Proposal For Change Tr
acking in XLIFF 2.1 (Phil)\n https://lists.oasis-open.or
g/archives/xliff/201511/msg00024.html\n P. Errors in test s
uite for Change Tracking module (Yves)\n https://lists.o
asis-open.org/archives/xliff/201511/msg00026.html\n[pending
AI - Bryan to fix]\n\n Q. CTR test suite files\n https:
//lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201511/msg00027.html\n
[pending AI - Bryan to fix]\n\n R. Preserving spaces inlin
e (Yves)\n https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/2
01512/msg00008.html\n[pending AI for Yves: Need to describe
the best practice in the spec. It needs some normative langu
age to obtain predictable results. Probably the best to addr
ess would be a note or a warning in core and just quote it i
n the ITS description\, because the issue is not ITS specifi
c\, ITS just used xml:space. We need to have somebody to wri
te the text that is spec ready.]\n\n S. * Inline codes in C
hange Tracking (Yves)\n https://lists.oasis-open.org/arc
hives/xliff/201512/msg00010.html\n T. Implementing XLFF 2.0
test suite files (Ryan)\n https://lists.oasis-open.org/
archives/xliff/201512/msg00019.html\n[pending AI - Bryan fix
module errors in test suite\; Yves fix core - rule\, only o
ne error per file]\n\n U. * XLIFF and ITS mapping- Elements
within text (Soroush)\n https://lists.oasis-open.org/ar
chives/xliff/201512/msg00033.html\n V. * XLIFF and ITS mapp
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in mtc and ctr modules (Yves)\n https://lists.oasis-ope
n.org/archives/xliff/201512/msg00046.html\n X. * Wrong titl
e example in section 5.9.6.5 (Yves)\n https://lists.oasi
s-open.org/archives/xliff/201512/msg00048.html\n\n \n\nIII S
ub Committee Report (0:45 - 0:55)\n\n \n\nIV Current and Ne
w Business (0:55 -\nGroup: OASIS XML Localisation Interchang
e File Format (XLIFF) TC\nCreator: Bryan Schnabel
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