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Use of Other Standards

From
Duncan Sparrell
Date
2019-09-17T19:50:00+00:00
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Use of Other Standards
Arnaud proposes
we are going to have to spend quite some time on the gap analysis
in response to my comment that we should make
  use of other standards where possible. I disagree. I think we should use them when we know of them and if someone in the TC brings it to the attention of the group. I wouldn t object to people doing gap analysis but I do not think it s a necessary prerequisite
  and I do not think we should slow down to do such a gap analysis. But if there are existing standards, particularly from OASIS, then I think we should at least allow for their use.



Wrt  someone in the TC brings it to the attention of the group , I would particularly like to bring up OpenC2 ( https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/openc2/ )
  for the command and control of security technology (eg machine-to-machine atomic actions). The OpenC2 TC recently approved 3 Committee Specifications for the OpenC2 language, one particular actuator, and one particular transport mechanism. Clearly more actuators
  and more transport specs are needed (and are in preparation) but it s also likely the language isn t perfect and will need to add something for CACAO use cases. As TC cochair of the OpenC2 TC, I can commit to working with the CACAO TC to fill in any gaps in
  the OpenC2 Specification so that hopefully OpenC2 can meet the  atomic action  needs of CACAO. I am not saying OpenC2 has to be the exclusive C2 mechanism (albeit I wouldn t object to it either)
just that it be one of the mechanisms.



Duncan Sparrell

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From:
Arnaud Taddei <>
Date:  Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 12:56 PM
To:  "" <>, "" <>
Subject:  Re: [EXT] [cacao] Missing requirements



Thank you Duncan and sorry I was late
hour and I couldn t attend the call 2 weeks ago (am WP3 chairman at ITU-T SG17 and it was WP closing plenary!)



I think we are going to have to spend quite some time on the gap analysis on point 3 from Duncan below before we can even give feedback. But that will produce a lot of value in itself



De :
<> au nom de "duncan sfractal.com" <>
  Date :  mardi, 17 septembre 2019 Ã 18:09
  à:  "" <>
  Objet :  [EXT] [cacao] Missing requirements



This is to document my comments at the meeting. I see 4 requirements missing from the slides that got talked about:

Vendor independent interoperability
Agile
break the CACAO work into phases an get  minimum viable product  out sooner rather than later, rather than a  complete  standard taking much
  more time
Use other standards when possible
Give feedback to other standards if they are missing something CACAO needs (specifically OpenC2 as the command and control language is new and needs
  use cases like CACAO to move to it s next phases). Point being (1)use other standard if possible. (2)If it s not possible, see other standard can be changed so it is possible before inventing a new way.

I would like to see these included in the meeting notes as brought up as potentially missing from base set of requirements presented. I m not sure process on reaching consensus on the ones presented or on
  these  additions  (no objections?).



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