RE: [chairs] Of un-patents and un-inventions

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Rogers, Tony <>
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2005-03-14T06:42:26+00:00
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RE: [chairs] Of un-patents and un-inventions
Title: [chairs] Of un-patents and un-inventions

Despite the emotive force of the term "un-invention", it is a horribly 
inaccurate term, because it would be inventive, and that would cause 
considerable confusion. Note that I'm not objecting to the term "un-patent" 
(unwieldy though it is).

 

May I suggest you try out other terms like "open invention", or "freely 
reusable idea" (could be abbreviated to FRI)? 

 

"I want to lodge an un-patent"

"You want FRIs with that?"

 

:-)

 

  
-----Original Message----- 
From: David Webber 
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Sent: Mon 14-Mar-05 16:02 
  
To: Chairs OASIS 
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Subject: [chairs] Of 
  un-patents and un-inventions

  
One of the underlying threads with the current OASIS IPR 
  policies
seems to be this notion of protection from the boogeyman 
  of
USPTO patents.

But what if instead of passively waiting for the 
  boogeyman to
come - we created a wall of preemptive strikes?  Attack 
  afterall
is the best means of defense.  Filing USPTO patents is not 
  an
option as that merely falls into the same bear trap that we
are 
  trying to avoid in the first place.

It suddenly occurred to me - that 
  creating un-patents and un-inventing
is entirely possible - and indeed we 
  could create a review board
and repository to receive these.  These 
  would be a powerful antidote
to any possible future claims - and also make 
  nice references for
the OASIS specifications to cite the un-invention and 
  un-patent.

Notice I have two issued USPTO patents that I filed some 
  years
back - so I'm very familiar with the regular patent 
  process.

In the course of any given year I probably have 10 or 15 
  notions that
would be highly "patentable" - and if I worked for Microsoft 
  or IBM
I'm sure they would file them.  Many times these ideas 
  simply
end up as part of the embodiment of an OASIS 
  specification,
because they are part of the process of developing the 
  specification.

Example - the work I've just done on a trusted voting 
  process:
http://drrw.net/backup/Trusted-Ballot-Processing-Nutshell.pdf

The 
  irritating thing about this situation is that some twit could file a
USPTO 
  patent based on some variation of an idea that had become
public - and then 
  hold a whole community hostage around that - or
so the theory goes anyway - 
  and we seem to be convinced that
this boogeyman is real enough to warrent 
  IPR policies and
enforcement, and declarations and what not.  But if 
  we had
an un-invention mechanism - anyone who had any concerns
could 
  simply put together an un-invention statement and file
that to the 
  un-invention repository.  Also - an un-invention is
by its nature a 
  lot easier to draft - stating what it is that you
are un-inventing - and 
  why you feel its an un-invention - such
as stating that the whole thing is 
  clearly self-evident and
reliant on prior work (within OASIS would be 
  nice!) - and
notions that are already publicly known (such as in 
  specifications
or the un-invention repository).

And just as the 
  USPTO issues patents - an authorative body such
as OASIS could receive 
  un-patents and un-inventions, have
peer review boards review same for 
  accuracy and completeness -
and then log them into a Kavi for public 
  access.

The beauty of this - since its an un-invention - its does not 
  matter
if someone else already has another un-invention that is 
  broadly
similar, that merely reinforces the un-invention again.  This 
  makes
the review boards job much easier.  They don't need to 
  worry
about prior art - et al - just that the un-invention makes 
  technical
sense.

Since the USPTO does not seem to ever read public 
  specifications
or open sourced licensed components - this would also give 
  the
USPTO a convenient means to check the un-invention
registry on Kavi 
  before taking the stupid step of issue one of
their own software invention 
  licenses.

So OK - I'm dreaming that OASIS would ever do this - or 
  the
W3C - but certainly someone elsewhere could - and probably
the EU 
  for one would be a great potential home from an
un-invention 
  repository.

OK - shoot this idea down for 
  me!?!

DW