Re: [cti-stix] Applying data markings

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Patrick Maroney <>
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2015-12-11T18:47:00+00:00
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Re: [cti-stix] Applying data markings
Jason,

I   see many discussions that seem to conflate and confuse a number of topics like "Data Markings" as well.    A
  core tenet of the TAXII Standard has always been the following:

5.2.1 TAXII is Content Agnostic

  T he TAXII specifications do not provide details about the underlying content formats of records within TAXII. All content formats are a "black-box" as far as TAXII is concerned - none
  of the behaviors required to process TAXII at the message level require inspection of any information stored within message content.  While   TAXII Back-ends can have very different processing paths and requirements for different
  types of information  ,  TAXII Services, Messages, and Exchanges are agnostic as to the information they convey. This allows TAXII to be usable for a wide array of sharing scenarios.

  Discussions around "Back-Ends" and STIX "Repositories" are very much implementation specific details from my perspective.

Patrick Maroney
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Date:  Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:24 PM
To:  John Wunder < 
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Cc:  "Chernin, Aharon" <  >, "  " <  >,
  Jason Keirstead <  >, Marlon Taylor <  >, Sean Barnum < 
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Subject:  RE: [cti-stix] Applying data markings

  There is something I still to this day don't grock about partial makings, especially the ill-defined "TLP". I feel like not enough thought is placed into how the consumer, specifically a TAXII server, is supposed to implement support for the markings.

 If I have a STIX document and it is marked in such a way that I can see 1/2 of that document but not the other, when that document is published to a TAXII channel that I am privy to, what do I receive as a consumer? Do I receive a partial document? Do I not
  receive the document at all?

 If it is the former, then what is the point of having Level 2 markings, and furthermore, how can we ensure the document is not incomplete (for example what if an Indicator I have access to has an observable reference that I do not)?

 If it is the latter, how can that be done by the TAXII server without changing the digital signature of the document?

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 Jason Keirstead
 Product Architect, Security Intelligence, IBM Security Systems
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