Fwd: Re: [cti-stix] Proposal - Top Level Relationship Object

Sorry for the spam to those on the STIX TC SC, this was directed to the wrong list. This may require a formal motion if we do not have consensus on the proposal below.

Patrick Maroney

President

Integrated Networking Technologies, Inc.

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From: "Patrick Maroney" <>

Date: Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 4:21 PM -0700

Subject: Re: [cti-stix] Proposal - Top Level Relationship Object

To: "Jordan, Bret" <>, ""
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 Bret,

I appreciate and support the desire to move forward, however I need to push back on this.  The Relationships Model is a critical gap that requires, in my view, substantive discourse and conceptual modeling. 

I suggest to the CTI TC that:

(1) We should be driving towards completion of the Conceptual Models expressed in:

  (1.1) UML

  (1.2) Some form of diagrammatic representation (form TBD).

  (1.3) Narrative Specifications in OASIS Standards document format.

(2) Progress forward should modify and enhance these Conceptual Models and supportive documents.

Patrick Maroney

President

Integrated Networking Technologies, Inc.

Desk: (856)983-0001

Cell: (609)841-5104

Email: 

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From: Jordan, Bret <>

Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 6:17 PM

Subject: Re: [cti-stix] Proposal - Top Level Relationship Object

To: <>

Lets try and finish this up tomorrow, Friday.  I would like to see us start work on the Sighting Object the week after BH/DC.  

Outstanding Items: 

1) How do we handle an unknown start / end time?  Do we just leave it blank or do we actually put in "unknown" or a zeroed out date/time?

2) Are these values good for the Confidence Vocab? 

3) What should the Type Vocab be, is this really needed? 

4) How do we handle a more elaborate object marking?  Do we add a Marking_Detail as an object like I said earlier? 

5) Do we really need multiple targets?  Just trying to make sure John's question gets enough focus.

Thanks, 

Bret 

Bret Jordan CISSP

Director of Security Architecture and Standards | Office of the CTO 

Blue Coat Systems 

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