Hi
JoAnn,
I've
had a hectic week (not that this week's any better...)
I'd
prefer to discuss my draft next week. I've received valuable input from Rodolfo
today, but won't have time to integrate it before today's meeting. I'll try to
get the revised draft out by mid-week so we can discuss the issues on the list
before next week's meeting.
Best Regards,
Gershon
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Gershon L
Joseph
Member, OASIS DITA and DocBook Technical Committees
Director of
Technology and Single Sourcing
Tech-Tav Documentation Ltd.
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Subject: [dita-translation] DITA SC Agenda
Monday 12 2006
Agenda for Monday
12 June 2006
Note: Please be certain to
review the ITS documents from Yves Savourel before the meeting
tomorrow.
I11:00 am - 12:00
am Eastern Standard Team (-5 GMT)
DITA Technical Committtee teleconference
USA Toll Free Number: 866-566-4838
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PASSCODE: 185771
Roll Call
Approve Minutes from 6 June 2006 (enclosed for those who are not
TC
members)
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita-translation/
<http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita-translation/>
Returning
Business:
1) Discussion item from Yves
Savourel
As you may know, the W3C has recently published the Last
Call Working Draft for ITS (See [1]) as well as the First Working Draft of a
companion document: "Best Practices for XML Internationalization" (See
[2]).
[1] <http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-its-20060518/>
[2] <http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-xml-i18n-bp-20060518/>
The second document include examples of how to use ITS with
a few specific document types (See the "ITS Applied to Existing
Formats"
section). In the next draft we would like to include DITA in
that list.
The attached file is a try for the possible default rules to
process DITA with ITS. We would appreciate very much if some of you had the time
to review it and make sure we have not made any mistake, or forgot anything. For
example, I'm not sure if the dir attribute should be there or not. I'm also not
sure if we have all subflow elements listed. Maybe we need two rule sets: on for
the current version of DITA and one for the upcoming one (although if there is
no conflict and a single rule set could be used that would be
better).
The specification document [1] should help you understand
each element in these rules. The Last Call review for the specification ends on
June-30. The Best Practices document will still go through several
drafts.
2) Discuss Gershon Joseph's
draft of the best practice for legacy TM
Attached to this email for
non-TC members.
3) Management of conref blocks for
translations
Standarized (boilerplate) text is often kept in
one or more .dita files used as a source for conrefs across a document set.
All boilerplate content for a language must be
stand-alone.
Boilerplate text must be stand-alone phrases to avoid problems
translating
it into some languages, where it does not fit into the surrounding
text.
Depending on the conref target, the conref target should
be
translated before the parent document that refers to the conref
is
translated.
Conreffing to an inline element may result
in a badly translated phrase with
respect to its surrounding content,
so we
should probably be against this. Examples:
singular/plural,
prepositions, acronyms e.g. ABS (antilock breaking system) so if
you
conref to the text itself, the translated text may not read
correctly.
Action Item: Andrjez will provide examples to the group for
discussion.
4) XLIFF transforms
Discuss plans for Rodolfo's tests of their XLIFF transforms and
possible release to open source. Ask if there is a proposed
date.
Andrzej and Rodolfo have successfully converted DITA to XLIFF and
back.
Rodolfo plans to publish
their converter as open source.
New Business:
4) Handling multi-language
documents
Charles Pau and others to provide examples to the list for
discussion
JoAnn T. Hackos, PhD
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