OASIS DITA Translation Subcommittee Agenda -- 30 June 2008

Hello Translation SC 
Members,

Please find the agenda 
for the 30 June 2008 meeting on the 
Subcommittee wiki

http://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/TranslationSubcommittee

 I have also copied the 
agenda below. Please be certain to review the material sent us by Felix Sasaki 
from the ITS working group. I have also included Andrzej's proposal for the 
OAXAL TC as an attachment.

JoAnn

8:00-8:05am Roll call 
PDT 

1) Roll Call 

2) Approve minutes from 
previous business meeting: 

3) Review open action 
items 

3.1 ACTION: Gershon to 
investigate whether he can use a client's samples. 

Gershon will assemble 
all the examples into the template for the TC; need to add the examples to the 
Multilanguage Best Practice. CONTINUED.

Awaiting legal OK; 
Gershon is selecting items for use in the Best Practice. Decision to submit the 
BP to the TC for review without these items and we'll update them after Gershon 
gets approval from his client, since it's going to take a while. 

3.2 ACTION: Rodolfo and 
Bryan Schnabel will continue to work on the Best Practice for XLIFF 

CONTINUED.  

Business: 

4.1 Gershon report on 
the status of the Multilanguage Best Practice final format. Nick Rosenthal 
provided feedback to Gershon. Nancy Harrison to help with the 
revisions.

4.2 Discussion of the 
draft acronym/glossary best practice document. Review Kara's edits and Andrzej's 
addition. Vote for approval of the draft 
document.

(see 
attached)

4.3  Discussion of 
the translate attribute and “partial” translations
Note from Steve 
Anderson to the yahoo DITA list:

“Many elements in DITA 
include a translate attribute. It has a value of yes or no. We've been using it 
in a way similar to the filterable attributes (platform, audience, otherprops, 
etc.). Before sending our files out for translation, we remove all the content 
that is marked as translate="no".

 As an aside, I'm 
surprised that the translate attribute isn't filterable like 
audience.

Anyway, translate yes/no 
is good for simple situations, but for more complex situations it fails. For 
example, if you have a topic that is translated into some, but not all languages 
(a "partial" translation), you can't set translate="no" on it, since, in some 
cases, it should be translated.”

Note from Felix 
Sasaki

you could use a mechanism like ITS "Localization Note" 
for this. See the definition at http://www.w3.org/TR/its/#locNote-datacat

and some BP about it at

http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-i18n-bp/#DevLocNote

http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-i18n-bp/#AuthLocNote

in 
your case having an attribute "locNote" which qualifies what kind of "partial" 
translation is needed could solve the problem.

Note that I'm not necessarily proposing to use ITS 
"Localization Note" 

natively, but I'm only pointing you to a potential 
approach to solve the issue.

 4.4  Discussion of 
information from Felix Sasaki 

The Internationalization 
Tag Set (ITS) Working Group has published a Group Note of Best Practices for XML 
Internationalization. This document provides a set of guidelines for developing 
XML documents and schemas that are internationalized properly. Following the 
best practices describes here allow both the developer of XML applications, as 
well as the author of XML content to create material in different languages. 

http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-xml-i18n-bp-20080213/

http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-xml-i18n-bp-20080213/xml-i18n-bp.pdf

(reader-friendly PDF) 

Section 5 of the 
document "ITS Applied to Existing Formats"

http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-xml-i18n-bp-20080213/#Modularization

contains a section about 
ITS and DITA

http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-xml-i18n-bp-20080213/#dita 

Thanks a lot to the 
people on his list who gave feedback on drafts on this section, and this 
document in general. 

Felix 

5) New business: 

5.1 Discussion of the 
proposed DITA/XLIFF webinar sponsored by OASIS. 
Need to set date and content.

 8:55 Adjourn 

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