MEETING MINUTES -- 21 SEPT 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE

MEETING MINUTES -- 21 SEPT 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE

*** Please see Action Items and Decision Summary at the end *** 

** Agenda ** 

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    1. Roll call

    2. Review/approve minutes from 14 September

        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00010.html

    3. Resume discussion on current issues:

        - For the Exchange table model:

            - Feedback/action on @scale usage

            - Feedback on migration mitigation

        - Terminology (awaiting list discussion)

        - Styles for DITA (new issue raised by Don)

    4. DTD cleanup

        - Alignment convention (elements, attributes, comments, etc.)

        - Testing the DTDs and Schemas

    5. Feasibility of a TC F2F?

    6. AOB? 

    - Schedule reminder:

        - 17 Aug 2004 

                - First major milestone -- complete first draft of

                  first section and send out for review.  

                - Begin review of 1st section.

        - 07 Sep 2004

                - Complete review/revision of 1st section; begin

                  review of 2nd section.

        - 28 Sep 2004

                - Complete review/revision of 2nd section; begin

                  review of 3rd section.  

        - 19 Oct 2004

                - Complete review/revision of 3rd section; beginning

                  of final review

        - 02 Nov 2004

                - Complete final review

        - 16 Nov 2004

                - Release 1.0 spec to OASIS

** Minutes ** 

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    1. Roll call

          Members: Paul Grosso, Yas Etessam, Mike Wethington, Michael

          Priestley, France Baril, Seraphim Larsen, Indie Liepa, Rob

          Frankland, Sharon Veach, Don Day (10/21--not a quorum)

          Observers and visitors: David Brainard, Erik Hennum, Eric

          Sirois, Tyde Richards, Karl Best, Erik Hickson, Kirsten

          Nothstine

        - No quorum.

    2. Review/approve minutes from 14 September

        - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200409/msg00010.html

        - No issues were raised; but we can't formally approve

          because we don't have quorum.

    3. Resume discussion on current issues:

        - For the Exchange table model:

            - Feedback/action on @scale usage

            - Feedback on migration mitigation

                - Someone said there would be no impact for them.

                - Michael Priestley -- He suspects there are lots of

                  migration issues for IBM.  He also has the

                  impression that many of us who are considering

                  using DITA would like to see a @scale attribute.

                - Any other current users?

        - Terminology (awaiting list discussion)

        - Styles for DITA (new issue raised by Don)

            - France -- If people need presentation information,

              couldn't that just be a domain that they add?  

            - Don -- This is something that Paul Grosso also

              suggested.

            - Discussion continued...  This is a thorny problem!

            - Michael's proposal -- To keep the @scale attribute

              (for tables, lines, code examples, etc.) (text).  It's

              hard to migrate legacy docs without it.  But also it's

              just the best way to handle this issue.

            - Don -- Maybe we should keep @scale to handle legacy

              docs, but come up with a new scaling model

              / methodology that's more generally applicable.

            - Paul -- It seems like it's not very well defined.

              This can be a problem, especially for

              interoperability.

            - Don -- Need to finish this discussion later -- let's

              take it to the list.

    4. DTD cleanup

        - Alignment convention (elements, attributes, comments, etc.)

        - Testing the DTDs and Schemas

        - No time, not covered.

    5. Feasibility of a TC F2F?

        - No time, not covered.

    6. AOB? 

        - No time, not covered.

** Summary of Decisions ** 

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    - None

        

** Action Required ** 

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    017 Shawn Jordan -- Post to the TC list his ideas about general

        extensibility and the creation of new elements not

        necessarily descended from the Topic element. Still open

        (not an immediate deliverable -- for post-1.0). 

    021 JoAnn Hackos, Michael Priestley -- Summarize the discussion

        of substitution and post to the TC list. Still pending as of

        7/20/04. 

    022 Don, Michael -- Put together a "self-study" tutorial/demo,

        as per JoAnn's comments regarding the DITA sessions. Still

        pending as of 7/20/04. 

    036 Shawn Jordan -- Investigate where to point the DITA

        namespace -- where does the URL point? Maybe an OASIS page

        that describes what DITA does, etc.   Still pending 8/17/04.

    040 Don -- Cull the past minutes and discussion list to create

        an inventory of all the things we need to close on in order

        to create the 1.0 spec.  Create a list of these items and

        post it in the Documents area of the website.  >>> This will

        be ongoing.

    042 All -- Consider need for and practicality of 2-3 day

        face-to-face meeting in late October in order to resolve

        final technical issues in advance of final editorial work.

        <<< Let's remove this from the agenda (9/21/04).

    043 Michael Priestley -- Add a straw-man audience statement to

        the introduction.  <<< Still pending as of 9/7/04.

    051 Don Day, 9/7/04 -- Take the discussion of @scale attribute

        and related issues to the list (presentation mechanisms).

    052 Don Day, 9/14/04 -- Is anyone other than IBM actually using

        the scale attribute? Don to ask on dita-users forum; get

        usage info for next week's discussion.

    053 Don Day or Michael Priestley, 9/14/04 -- Ask the IBM tools

        team what they contemplate doing for table migration, and

        whether it can be contributed for all to use. <<< Completed

        as of 9/21/04.

    054 Erik Hennum, 9/14/04 -- Provide a comment about vocabulary

        (terminology discussion) to the list.

    055 Don, 9/21/04 -- Take the @scale discussion to

        the list.

** Issues to be Resolved ** 

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    005 All -- What should the scope and length of the conceptual

        introduction be?  >>> We'll get this from JoAnn.

    006 All -- Should DITA specialization mechanism be documented in

        a separate specification in order to make it easier to use

        in other XML applications that otherwise have no

        relationship to topic-based writing? >>> Ongoing.

    008 Namespace Subcommittee -- Decide namespace issues.  New as

        of 8/31/04.

    009 "Best Practices" document -- Let's put this on the agenda

        for future discussion.

    010 Relationship between DITA and other topic-based

        architectures (such as S1000D) -- Need to incorporate this

        into the "Best Practices" document.

    011 All -- Revisit use of @scale on image (general treatment of

        graphics, ie raster vs vector assumptions, etc.).

        Compare/contrast with controls for the <object> element,

        which in HTML subsumes the <img> element.

    

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