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MEETING MINUTES -- 5 OCT 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
Minutes taken by Michael Priestley MEETING MINUTES -- 5 OCT 2004 -- DITA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE *** Please see Action Items and Decision Summary at the end *** ** Agenda ** ------------ 0. Scribe for today's minutes 1. Roll call 2. Review/approve minutes from 28 September http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200410/msg00007.html 3. Specification status 4. List issues: - TC: terminology - dita-users: image/@align, tm/image 5. DTD cleanup - Alignment convention (elements, attributes, comments, etc.) - Testing the DTDs and Schemas 6. AOB? ** Minutes ** ------------- 1. Roll call Members: Bruce Esrig, Dave Schell, Deborah Lapeyre, France Baril, Indi Liepa, Michael Priestley, Paul Grosso, Robin Cover, Stanley Doherty, Don Day (10/21: no quorum) Observers and visitors: Erik Hennum, Nancy Harrison, Alan Houser minutes: previous minutes cannot be approved given lack of quorum open items were reviewed, no changes recommended status of spec: - don owing content for 2.0 - 2.0 content should be done by next week - 3.0 stuff - erik and michael on the hook, other volunteers welcome - next week: - revisit question of separate spec for specialization - should not affect 3.0 content so much; just means dita references would become examples terminology: document type - bruce: we're tending towards document type - need input from eliot, joann- others who are absent dita-users list issues: - align attribute on image - legacy discussion to be added from don (document image/@align along with the table/@style expectations) - image in tm - but how would we sort? processing right now is absent in dita toolkit in any case so we need clear definition of expected behavior france baril: not currently using nokia: currently using, but as text only don: will suggest using text that could be used as a lookup for an image will also describe ibm's use - added by tool, only first one takes effect can resume discussion on tc after discussion on dita-users (to clarify intended use before undertaking design work) action for don: reply to image align and tm notes in dita-users DTD cleanup: don proposes it's an editorial decision, leave it up to joann hackos and michael priestley to decide, don will implement action for don: add to agenda for next week's meeting Testing DTDs and schemas: - France Baril will investigate and return with some options - don: we need to validate not only according to DTD or schema rules, but also test somehow whether they follow the dita design pattern - Indi: will forward comments from audit of their (nokia's) specialization process - France: any easier to test design pattern on schemas? since they are xml, easier to add validation transform - Eric Sirois: current version of schemas not using inheritance (since buggy in schema 1.0) - planning to write transform to help developers validate their specialization - but not yet written - action for Eric Sirois: provide XSLT validation for specialized schemas once developed (presumably one for shell, one for module? or traverse full schema from shell) - don: ideally should work for both map and topic specialization - eric: should it also validate style? (eg following debbie's suggestions) - mp: suggest not, or at least optional - don't make conflicting house styles a validity issue mp: I'll be absent next time for sigdoc ** Summary of Decisions ** -------------------------- None today; no quorum. ** Action Required ** --------------------- 017 Shawn Jordan -- Post to the TC list his ideas about general extensibility and the creation of new elements not necessarily descended from the Topic element. Still open (not an immediate deliverable -- for post-1.0). 021 JoAnn Hackos, Michael Priestley -- Summarize the discussion of substitution and post to the TC list. Still pending as of 7/20/04. 022 Don, Michael -- Put together a "self-study" tutorial/demo, as per JoAnn's comments regarding the DITA sessions. Still pending as of 7/20/04. 036 Shawn Jordan -- Investigate where to point the DITA namespace -- where does the URL point? Maybe an OASIS page that describes what DITA does, etc. Still pending 8/17/04. 040 Don -- Cull the past minutes and discussion list to create an inventory of all the things we need to close on in order to create the 1.0 spec. Create a list of these items and post it in the Documents area of the website. >>> This will be ongoing. 043 Michael Priestley -- Add a straw-man audience statement to the introduction. <<< Still pending as of 9/7/04. 051 Don Day, 9/7/04 -- Take the discussion of @scale attribute and related issues to the list (presentation mechanisms). 054 Erik Hennum, 9/14/04 -- Provide a comment about vocabulary (terminology discussion) to the list. 055 Don, 9/21/04 -- Take the @scale discussion to the list. Ongoing. 056 Mary Macrae, 9/28/04 -- Get the dates for the OASIS forum in New Orleans as a possible venue for the DITA F2F. Closed 10/05/04 with this communique: "second annual OASIS Symposium will be held in New Orleans, LA on 25-29 April. TCs are strongly encouraged to fix this date for a TC F2F meeting;" 057 Eliot Kimber, 9/28/04 -- Move the discussion on terminology (and meta-terminology) to the list. Closed 10/05/04 058 Don Day, 9/28/04 -- Compose a short note to the TAC. 059 Don Day, 9/28/04 -- Open a ballot to decide whether to keep the full set of features for mitigating table migration. 060 Indi Liepa, 10/05/04 -- forward comments from audit of Nokia's specialization process 061 Don Day, 10/05/04 -- reply to image align and tm notes in dita-users 062 Eric Sirois, 10/05/04 -- provide XSLT validation for specialized schemas once developed ** Issues to be Resolved ** --------------------------- 005 All -- What should the scope and length of the conceptual introduction be? >>> We'll get this from JoAnn. 006 All -- Should DITA specialization mechanism be documented in a separate specification in order to make it easier to use in other XML applications that otherwise have no relationship to topic-based writing? >>> Ongoing. 008 Namespace Subcommittee -- Decide namespace issues. New as of 8/31/04. 009 "Best Practices" document -- Let's put this on the agenda for future discussion. 010 Relationship between DITA and other topic-based architectures (such as S1000D) -- Need to incorporate this into the "Best Practices" document. 011 All -- Revisit use of @scale on image (general treatment of graphics, ie raster vs vector assumptions, etc.). Compare/contrast with controls for the <object> element, which in HTML subsumes the <img> element. <END>
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