Re: [dita] Spec Issue: Addressing Nested Topics

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Re: [dita] Spec Issue: Addressing Nested Topics
Hi, Paul:

The first bullet in the document you referenced lays out the rules for addressing topics:

The complete identifier for a topic consists of the combination of the URI for the document instance, a separating hash character, and the topic id (as in http://some.org/some/directory/topicfile.xml#topicid).... As is typical with URIs, a relative URI can be used as the identifier for the document instance so long as it is resolvable in the referencing context. For instance, within a file system directory, the filename of the document instance suffices (as in some/directory/topicfile.xml#topicid). Within the same document, the topic id alone suffices (as in #topicid). 

So, in DITA 1.0, topics cannot be addressed relative to another topic.

In passing, use, "topic content" should be defined and probably isn't quite the right term.  What we need is a term that indicates everything contained by a topic except nested topics.

Because topicgroups and topicheads specialize topicref, the id definition for topicref (unique within document) applies to topicgroup and topichead as well: 

For a map, the id of a map, topicref, or anchor must be unique within the document instance. 

As for why a content fragment has to be addressed within a topic, my interpretation is that the rule ensures that processing and management always works with a consistent definition of a content object, even when sharing pieces of such objects. (Rather like using a class as the unit of definition and reuse in an object-oriented programming language instead of allowing reuse of functions outside of any class.)

Hoping that's useful,

Erik Hennum



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"Paul Prescod" <> 

10/06/2005 04:40 AM

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[dita] "Fragments of DITA content"

http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/v1.0/archspec/conref.html

 

“The target of a conref must be in a valid DITA topic or DITA map. Fragments of DITA content do not contain enough information on their own to allow the conref processor to determine the validity of a reference to them.”

 

What is the basis for this statement? Could some describe how the first of these documents contains more conref-processor-relevant information than the second?

 

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<?xml version="1.0"?>

<!DOCTYPE topic PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DITA Composite//EN" "ditabase.dtd">

<!-- Created with XMetaL 4.6 (http://www.xmetal.com) -->

<topic id="topic_5"><title>Title</title>

<body>

<p id="reusable">This is a reuable paragraph.</p></body></topic>

 

 

2.

<?xml version="1.0"?>

<!DOCTYPE p PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DITA Composite//EN" "ditabase.dtd">

<!-- Created with XMetaL 4.6 (http://www.xmetal.com) -->

<p id="reusable">This is a reuable paragraph.</p>

 

Perhaps the spec could be clearer if it were explicit about what information the latter lacks.

 

 

As a best practice I actually prefer the former. The title element makes it easier to find the fragment. But a rationale based upon information management best practice is different than one based upon the needs of a conref processor.

 

 Paul Prescod

 

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10/06/2005 04:32 AM

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[dita] Spec Issue: Addressing Nested Topics

The DITA specification defines an addressing scheme for topics and another for “topic content”.[1] Topic content is not defined. Presumably it just means “sub-elements of topics”. Topics can be sub-elements of other topics. In this case, is either addressing scheme appropriate?

 

http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/v1.0/archspec/id.html

 

While I am asking questions about this section: it seems not to deal with ID attributes on topicheads and topicgroups. There may be other unaddressed elements.

 

 Paul Prescod