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RE: [dita] MUST, SHOULD, and MAY, some key words from RFC 2119
Thanks for the examples - adding thoughts to them below Michael Priestley Lead IBM DITA Architect http://dita.xml.org/blog/25 "Ogden, Jeff" <> 10/02/2007 03:01 PM To Michael Priestley/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA cc <> Subject RE: [dita] MUST, SHOULD, and MAY, some key words from RFC 2119 OK and here are some examples of overrides that I don’t think we should allow: Allowing a reference of the form “#elementid” to reference sub-topic content. MP: if someone's using a CMS and assigning GUIDs to every element, they may actually have one unique identifier per element, rather than per topic+element. That said, I see your point - it would be preferable for the tool to externalize the reference as properly formed DITA, even if it is internally managed differently. I can easily see the syntax of the href and conref attributes, along with the domains and class attributes, as being immutable. That said, if someone wants to override what they do with that syntax (for example, fetching the linktext for the subelement from its parent topic), I would think that's reasonable. Allowing new attributes in specializations that are not based on @props or @base. MP: that's not a behavior, so is in a different bucket in my mind. The doctype is a valid specialization or not regardless of what processing is done with the doctype. Allowing specializations to give new meanings to or ignore the meanings of existing attribute/value pairs (scope=”external”). MP: maybe there's a difference here between "meaning" and "behavior". For example, current behavior for scope="external" might be to open up a new browser window - but in a particular delivery context they might actually want to popup an intermediate window that says "you're leaving the website and everything after this is unwarrantied" or something. Not changing the meaning, but definitely changing the behavior. Allowing specializations to ignore @lockmeta. MP: I can imagine a draft review process that pulled in "author" info from the target topics, even though lockmeta was set, because they wanted to use a single map for both review and for final publication, and they only wanted the author info for review... So in this case, I am imagining a process that would ignore lockmeta to do a particular metadata fetch based on business need rather than specialization. Allowing properties that normally cascade from a map to a topic to not cascade depending on the specializations in use. MP: if a group was doing extensive customization in a map, and was tracking authorship of the map at a chapter level, I can imagine overriding the normal cascade of metadata from map to topic to stop author from cascading and implying authorship of the actual topics rather than of the referencing map sections. Again, a customization not based on specialization, but still definitely an override of default behavior. I don’t think this is an all or nothing decision. I think we can and should apply the key words MUST, SHOULD, and MAY differently to different items in the DITA Standard. MP: I can definitely see the point of preserving the syntax and meaning of our core attributes - but not sure how much of subsequent behavior we can really standardize beyond "don't be an idiot". For example, we have a "<b>" element that should be rendered as bold - but if someone has a compelling reason to override that (like bold text has been reserved for warnings only), then I think adopters should have the freedom to define their own output processing, even when it deviates from what's in the spec. -Jeff From: Michael Priestley [mailto:] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 2:41 PM To: Ogden, Jeff Cc: Subject: RE: [dita] MUST, SHOULD, and MAY, some key words from RFC 2119 Yes, I think specific examples are good. Here are some examples off the top of my head for overriding existing core behaviors: - conref: override current behavior to limit reuse to a particular set of targets (eg only allow reuse from topics in a "/reuse" subdirectory) - map-based linking: create breadcrumb links (to all ancestors) instead of just parent links - link resolution: pull the shortdesc for APIRef topics from their syntax as well as their shortdesc Some of the overrides could be driven by specializations, some could just be driven by business process requirements. Michael Priestley Lead IBM DITA Architect http://dita.xml.org/blog/25 "Ogden, Jeff" <> 10/02/2007 02:30 PM To Michael Priestley/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA cc <> Subject RE: [dita] MUST, SHOULD, and MAY, some key words from RFC 2119 Michael wrote: > In other words, all behavior, core and specialized, is overrideable. This is the subject of the discussion (item #4 from my previous note) that we plan to have. The fundamental question that we need to answer is, is all behavior overrideable, that is, is everything either RECOMMENDED or OPTIONAL, or are some things truly REQUIRED? Or stated another way, the core as a whole is REQUIRED, but individual items within the core may be REQUIRED, RECOMMENDED, or OPTIONAL with respect to specializations. This doesn’t really get interesting until we get down to specific cases and we have to figure out when to use MUST / REQUIRED, SHOULD / RECOMMENDED, and MAY / OPTIONAL -Jeff From: Michael Priestley [mailto:] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 2:15 PM To: Ogden, Jeff Cc: Subject: Re: [dita] MUST, SHOULD, and MAY, some key words from RFC 2119 Looks good, Jeff - with the caveat though that even though the core is MUST and the specializations are RECOMMENDED or OPTIONAL, a specialization may introduce behavior that overrides the core. In other words, all behavior, core and specialized, is overrideable. Michael Priestley Lead IBM DITA Architect http://dita.xml.org/blog/25 "Ogden, Jeff" <> 10/02/2007 02:08 PM To <> cc Subject [dita] MUST, SHOULD, and MAY, some key words from RFC 2119 Included below are some words taken from RFC 2119 on “Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate Requirement Levels". I think we are going to need to use this or a similar approach in the DITA standard. 1. MUST This word, or the terms "REQUIRED" or "SHALL", mean that the definition is an absolute requirement of the specification. 2. MUST NOT This phrase, or the phrase "SHALL NOT", mean that the definition is an absolute prohibition of the specification. 3. SHOULD This word, or the adjective "RECOMMENDED", mean that there may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore a particular item, but the full implications must be understood and carefully weighed before choosing a different course. 4. SHOULD NOT This phrase, or the phrase "NOT RECOMMENDED" mean that there may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances when the particular behavior is acceptable or even useful, but the full implications should be understood and the case carefully weighed before implementing any behavior described with this label. 5. MAY This word, or the adjective "OPTIONAL", mean that an item is truly optional. One vendor may choose to include the item because a particular marketplace requires it or because the vendor feels that it enhances the product while another vendor may omit the same item. An implementation which does not include a particular option MUST be prepared to interoperate with another implementation which does include the option, though perhaps with reduced functionality. In the same vein an implementation which does include a particular option MUST be prepared to interoperate with another implementation which does not include the option (except, of course, for the feature the option provides.) To see the full RFC (its short), see: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt?number=2119 Note that as we split the DITA Specification into multiple specifications, that an entire specification may be REQUIRED, RECOMMENDED, or OPTIONAL, but within the individual specifications there will be items that are REQUIRED, RECOMMENDED or which are OPTIONAL. So, if I take the summary from Michael’s recent note: - everyone needs to support the core; - specialized support (beyond core defaults) for the specialized parts of the spec are optional but encouraged, and should represent an established user community; - specialized support (beyond core defaults or standard specialization defaults) for non-standardized user specializations are up to the user or their partners to provide I can rewrite it using the RFC terms as follows: - everyone MUST support the core; - specialized support (beyond core defaults) for the specialized parts of the spec are RECOMMENDED, and MUST represent an established user community; - specialized support (beyond core defaults or standard specialization defaults) for non-standardized user specializations is OPTIONAL and up to the user or their partners to provide. Michael, how did I do? -Jeff
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