Re: [dita] Experimental Trello Group and Board

From
Kristen James Eberlein <>
Date
2013-02-12T20:11:39+00:00
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Re: [dita] Experimental Trello Group and Board
Hi, Chet.

      

      No, we would not use this for official TC votes. If we decide to
      use it, we'll still ensure that the minutes of our weekly TC
      meeting provide official summaries of our progress.

      

      But since the OASIS tool set does not give us what we need to
      handle project management/work flow needs, we are looking for
      non-OASIS tools to keep us moving forward. As we know, we'll need
      to do that for a mechanism to conduct our internal-to-the-TC
      review of the DITA 1.3 spec.

      

      I did experiment with Jira, and it just does not work for us; it
      does not offer us the flexibility to create our own categories and
      workflow.

      

      
Best,

        Kris

        

        Kristen James Eberlein

        Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting

        Co-chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee

        Charter member, OASIS DITA Adoption Committee

        www.eberleinconsulting.com

        +1 919 682-2290; kriseberlein (skype)

        

      

      On 2/12/2013 2:43 PM, Chet Ensign wrote:

    

    
      
Not to get procedurally pedantic or anything - but
        this isn't "official" TC business, right? Asked another way,
        this isn't part of the official record of the TC's activities?
        Because if it is, using Trello violates the TC Process by
        putting TC documentation on a non-OASIS platform where we can't
        vouch for its permanence. 
        

          

        

        
If this is sort of a scratch-pad activity and
          you're going to make an official statement / vote on the TC's
          web page, that's ok. But you really can't hold a TC vote over
          there. 

        

          

        

        
That said, it *is* pretty gosh-darn cool. 

        

        

        
Best, 

        

        

        
/chet 

      

      

        

        

          On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Eliot Kimber <> wrote:

          
            OK, I made the board public visibility--I didn't want to
            unilaterally expose

            it since it was/is just an experiment for now.

            

            Cheers,

            

            E.

            

            On 2/12/13 12:34 PM, "Kristen James Eberlein" <>

            wrote:

            

              

                > Eliot, I cannot see your board; you will need to
                share it with me.

                >

                > Also, we've got churn going on here; both you and
                Chris Nitchie

                > separately have set up Trello boards. I'm going to
                contact the two of

                > you off-list and we can figure out how to handle
                this.

                >

                > Best,

                > Kris

                >

                > Kristen James Eberlein

                > Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting

                > Co-chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee

                > Charter member, OASIS DITA Adoption Committee

                > www.eberleinconsulting.com

                > +1
                  919 682-2290; kriseberlein (skype)

                >

                > On 2/12/2013 1:30 PM, Eliot Kimber wrote:

                >> OK, I've added all the Phase 2 and Phase 3
                proposals and put the issues I

                >> care about into priority order. I only included
                the 13110 Phase one

                >> proposals as the others appear to be either
                dormant or no longer relevant.

                >>

                >> The card stacks make it easy to see some
                numbers:

                >>

                >> - 1 stage 1 proposal

                >> - 43 (!) stage 2 proposals

                >> - 14 stage 3 proposals

                >>

                >> I created labels for "architectural change",
                "new specialization", and

                >> "Editorial correction/clarification" and
                labeled each issue appropriately.

                >>

                >> An architectural change is one that changes
                base content models or adds or

                >> changes existing processing requirements.

                >>

                >> New specialization adds new element types that
                are specializations of

                >> existing types.

                >>

                >> Editorial corrections are refinements to the
                spec language without changing

                >> any existing rules.

                >>

                >> With due dates and voting this seems like a
                pretty decent system given that

                >> it's free and light weight.

                >>

                >> Cheers,

                >>

                >> E.

                >>

                >>

                >>

                >>

                >> On 2/12/13 11:38 AM, "Eliot Kimber" <>
                wrote:

                >>

                >>> OK, the board I'm creating is here:

                >>>

                >>> https://trello.com/b/gPKH0OcF

                >>>

                >>> I've added all the Phase 3 and almost all
                of the Phase 2 proposals, just

                >>> because once I started I couldn't stop.

                >>>

                >>> Cheers,

                >>>

                >>> E.

                >>>

                >>> On 2/12/13 11:35 AM, "Chris Nitchie" <>
                wrote:

                >>>

                >>>> Eliot,

                >>>>

                >>>> I did essentially the same thing and
                set it up with my own proposals. I've

                >>>> made it public so anybody can look, but
                you can't modify unless you're a

                >>>> member.

                >>>>

                >>>>

                https://trello.com/board/dita-1-3-proposals-chris-nitchie/511a70bcd0bae99c5>>>>

                1

                >>>> 00059e

                >>>>

                >>>> Chris

                >>>>

                >>>> -----Original Message-----

                >>>> From: 
                [mailto:]
                On

                >>>> Behalf

                >>>> Of Eliot Kimber

                >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:03
                PM

                >>>> To: dita

                >>>> Subject: [dita] Experimental Trello
                Group and Board

                >>>>

                >>>> As an experiment I've created Trello
                group "DITA Technical Committee" and

                >>>> created Kanban-style board there and
                will put a few tasks in it.

                >>>>

                >>>> If you create Trello account, I can
                then add you to the organization and

                >>>> you

                >>>> will have access to the board.

                >>>>

                >>>> Based on my very quick experience, this
                seems like a good balance of

                >>>> functionality and ease-of-use.

                >>>>

                >>>> Cheers,

                >>>>

                >>>> E.

                >>>>

                >>>> --

                >>>> Eliot Kimber

                >>>> Senior Solutions Architect, RSI Content
                Solutions "Bringing Strategy,

                >>>> Content, and Technology Together"

                >>>> Main: 512.554.9368

                >>>> www.rsicms.com

                >>>> www.rsuitecms.com

                >>>> Book: DITA For Practitioners, from XML
                Press,

                >>>> http://xmlpress.net/publications/dita/practitioners-1/

                >>>>

                >>>>

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                >>> Eliot Kimber

                >>> Senior Solutions Architect, RSI Content
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                >>> Main: 512.554.9368

                >>> www.rsicms.com

                >>> www.rsuitecms.com

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                Main: 512.554.9368

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