Re: Here is a new version of the Ruby proposal

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JoAnn Hackos <>
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2013-08-19T16:41:24+00:00
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Re: Here is a new version of the Ruby proposal
Hi All,

As chair of the Translation Subcommittee, I sent this notice to several members. Felix Sasaki from Japan responded to the Ruby proposal. I did sent this note to Eliot when I received it.

Would everyone please consider Felix's comments when we decide what to do about the ruby proposal.

Best,

JoAnn

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From: Felix Sasaki <>

Date: Friday, August 9, 2013 5:48 AM

To: JoAnn Hackos <>

Cc: Andrzej Zydron <>, "Rodolfo M. Raya" <>

Subject: Re: Here is a new version of the Ruby proposal

Dear JoAnn, all,

apologies for the late reply, due to holiday and travel. I shared this within the W3C i18n working group. There was no official review (again due to absence of people), but some people stated the same opinion: the DITA ruby proposal looks like aligned with
 the HTML ruby definition. But that Ruby definition in HTML5 is not stable yet, so it might be a good approach to postpone Ruby in DITA until final Ruby solution is created for HTML5.

To decide about this, it also might be relevant for you that the ePub community working in IDPF and in W3C in the new digital publishing interest group

http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/

is also closely aligning with HTML5 in this area (and others). For ease the adaptation of generation workflows DITA > HTML or DITA > ePub3 (=based on HTML5), the alignment might help as well.

Below are some links about the work currently going on around the Ruby revision. Let me know if you have more questions.

1)

Requirements for Japanese Text Layout

http://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/

Particularly relevant sections include:

http://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#ruby_and_emphasis_dots

and

http://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#positioning_of_jukugoruby

2)

HTML Ruby Markup Extensions spec

http://darobin.github.io/html-ruby/

3)

Use Cases & Exploratory Approaches for Ruby Markup

http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-ruby-use-cases-20120710/

latest editor's draft at 
http://www.w3.org/International/docs/ruby/

4) No 3) references "Ruby extension markup"

http://www.w3.org/International/notes/ruby-extension/

which provides various examples of use of ruby that can be used as a starting point for testing and documenting

Best,

Felix

Am 24.07.13 16:40, schrieb JoAnn Hackos:

Eliot Kimber corrected the formatting.

JoAnn T. Hackos, PhD

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