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Submitter's message

        ActionItems:

1. Kris will respond to dita-comment mail about 'Multiple examples in a strict task'.

2. Eliot will look into learningAggregationsTopicrefConstraintMod.xsd issue (discrepancy between 1.3 Errata .01 and .02) raised by Tom.

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Minutes of the OASIS DITA TC

Tuesday, 11 December 2018

Recorded by Nancy Harrison

link to agenda for this meeting:	

https://wiki.OASIS-open.org/dita/PreviousAgendas

Attendance:

Robert Anderson, Deb Bissantz, Carsten Brennecke, Bill Burns, Stan Doherty, Kris Eberlein, Carlos Evia, Nancy Harrison, Alan Houser, Scott Hudson, Eliot Kimber, Chris Nitchie, Dawn Stevens,  

Business

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1. Roll call

        Regrets: Tom Magliery, Keith Schengili-Roberts, Eric Sirois 

2. Approve minutes from previous business meeting:

     04 December 2018: 

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201812/msg00012.html (Harrison, 13 December 2018) 

moved by Kris, 2nd by Bill, approved by TC

	11 December 2018:

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201812/msg00013.html (Harrison, 13 December 2018) 

moved by Kris, 2nd by Bill, approved by TC

3. Announcements:

        New TC members: None 

Carlos; a book about LwD was published yesterday, will be available from Amazon today.

[congratulations from TC members to Carlos!]

4. Action items

        21 August 2018

            Kris & Robert: Perform the best edit of multimedia topics that they can do in time available; due 18 September 

        11 September 2018

            Kris: Review conversation with Joe Pairman, e-mails about metadata, and TC discussion in late 2017/early 2018; summarize to TC 

        30 October 2018:

            Kris: Submit request to publish committee note (COMPLETED)

            Kris: Open GitHub issue for committee note PDF issue regarding formatting (some URLs are not blue) on coverpage 

        13 November 2018

            Eliot: Test refactoring of grammar files

            Spec editors incorporate changes from DITAweb review 

[no change to any items]

5. Review of DITA 2.0 proposal deadlines

        https://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/DeadlinesDITA2.0 

[reminder to those with 1/8

- Kris; Robert, do you have any response to the reviews on your chunking proposal?

- Robert; I haven't had a chance to look at them; waiting for review from Eliot

- Eliot; I'll have my review done before end of year.

6. DITA 2.0 stage two proposals

        Vote

            None

            None 

        Initial discussion

            Issue 16: titlealts improvements

                https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201812/msg00016.html (Nitchie, 17 December 2018) 

Chris gave overview; the original requirement was to add alternate titles to maps. Since bookmap plays games with titles, and defines all the various alternate titles as specializations of 'ph', whenever a processor needs to display a map title, it has to figure out what it is.  Since topics already have titlealts, I thought that would be good to add to maps as well. Someone suggested also allowing titlealts to topicrefs as well; the proposal tries to allow for alternate titles to both maps and topics in a consictent way.  Navtitle and searchtitle would become specializations of a new titlealt element; titlllealt would be child of titlealts.

The proposal suggests making titlealt info in a map take precedence over actual topic titles by default. User can specify a series of titlealt elements under parent titlealts. Proposal would make it easier for new users of DITA, but will impose a fairly heavy cost to migrators, which will make it somewhat controversial.

- Eliot; changing the navtitle/locktitle behavior would be a 'service to the world'; it will benefit everyone in long run. 

- Robert; I'm worried about the migration cost, but it would make DITA much more intuitive to new users.

- Eliot; and the migration is fairly straightforward.

- Robert; yes, we're already doing away with @locktitle, so there's not a big additional migration cost, but there would be a big mental adjustment for authors.

- Kris; as a side question; does anyone have data on how many editors actually retrieve titles directly from topic? I know Oxygen does, and so does SDL's CMS.

- Chris; Arbortext does not; puts it into navtitle.

- Kris; Ixiasoft strips off navtitle @s by default; it's an interesting question.

- Bill; I think Xmetal generates a navtitle from title.

- Kris; right, that wasn't the case in earlier releases, but it is now. 

- Deb; Vasont just applies navtitle.

- Kris; i will be doing reviews of CMS's for Simple A; if anyone thinks of useful questions,  just let me know.

7. dita-comment list

        Multiple examples in a strict task

            https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita-comment/201812/msg00002.html (Wurst, Wolf-Dieter, 17 December 2018) 

Kris; I will respond to this

***ActionItem: Kris will respond to this comment.

8. New item: learningAggregationsTopicrefConstraintMod.xsd: to be or not to be?

        https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201812/msg00014.html (Magliery, 13 December 2018) 

- Kris; Tom noticed this. There's a discrepancy between the files in Errata .01 and .02; we could add this to a list of errata .03 items, though I really don't want to have an errata .03, or we can fix it in 2.0. 

- Eliot; it's not worth an .03, but I'll look into it.

***ActionItem: Eliot will look into this.

- Kris; the only reason to do another errata to 1.3 would be for something earthshaking.

11:28 am ET close 

        

-- Ms. Nancy Harrison
        
    

    
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