RE: [dss] Draft Minutes for December 16, 2002 Meeting.

From
Blessandro Sriglia
Date
2002-12-18T17:22:05+00:00
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RE: [dss] Draft Minutes for December 16, 2002 Meeting.
Title: Message

 

Hi 
Robert,

 

I 
attended the meeting from the very beginning.  Below you say, "17 voting members were counted as present", but you list only 
16.  I guess I am the one missing from the list.

 

Alessandro

 

  

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert 
  Zuccherato [mailto:] 
Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 18, 2002 11:26
To: 'DSS TC'
Subject: [dss] Draft 
  Minutes for December 16, 2002 Meeting.

  
Draft Minutes, 12/16/02 DSS TC telephonic 
  meeting. 

  
Attendance 

  
Voting Members 

  
Adams, Carlisle 
Andivahis, Dmitri 
Boran, Jeff 
  
Cruellas, Juan Carlos 
Griffin, Phil 
Hirsh, Fred 
  
Linn, John 
Lockhart, Hal 
Moskowitz, Ram 
  
Ross, John 
Pope, Nick 
Sankar, Krishna 
  
Srivastava, Manoj 
Wang, Kate 
Yuval, Gideon 
  
Zuccherato, Robert 

  
Prospective members 

  
Kasselman, Pieter 
Messing, John 
Holm, Ron 
  
Anderson, Steve 
Kaliski, Burt 

  
17 voting members were counted as present, with 5 
  prospective members 
attending. 

  
Liaisons 

  
Nick Pope offered to be the liaison to ETSI which 
  considers the legal and 
technical 
  
recognition of signatures in Europe. The focus is 
  on the means for securing 
documents long 
  term, with emphasis on timestamping, signature formats, CRL 
status, etc. Upon motion duly considered, Nick Pope was 
  named as the liaison 
to ETSI. 

  
John Messing of LegalXML discussed the work of the 
  CourtFiling TC and the 
eNotary TC. 
  CourtFiling involved the submission of documents to courts on 
behalf of litigants and a query-response mechanism to view 
  them. Electronic 
signatures have not been a 
  focus of the work to date. The eNotary TC is 
considering a 
syntax that can be 
  included within the signed XML data or 
an 
  X-509 certificate extension (or both) in order to provide a shorthand 
  way 
to express equivalent or disparate 
  registration procedures employed by 
various 
  RA's and their legal significance in machine readable ways. This is 
  
intended to enable relying parties to "mix and 
  match" brands and types of 
certificates in 
  order to perform their due diligence and reduce their own 
liability in connection with certificate usage. Upon motion 
  duly considered, 
John Messing was named as 
  the 
liaison to the CourtFiling TC and the 
  eNotary TC. 

  
John Ross discussed the XML timestamp standard 
  being considered by the EML 
TC and how it 
  might be affected by the work of this TC. Upon motion duly 
considered, John Ross was named as the liaison to 
  EML. 

  
Input documents. These were already provided to the 
  TC. 

  
Advanced Electronic Signatures Standard from ETSI 
  (Nick Pope), XML security 
timestamping 
  protocol (Juan Carlos Cruellas), Authenticating downloaded 
content (RAM Moskowitz) 

  
1. Nick Pope introduced the European Candidate 
  Advanced Electronic 
Signatures Standard 
  from ETSI  which builds upon XML DSIG from W3C. AES 
extends DSIG with respect to signature validity over long 
  periods. There is 
a placeholder for 
  timestamps, as well as for OCSP and CRL applicable at the 
time of timestamp. 

  
There is a means for regular maintenance of 
  timestamping over the archived 
life of the 
  documents on an annual or other regular time period basis. 

  
Juan Carlos added with regard to the AES of ETSI 
  that there were other 
features relevant to 
  web services in business environments including a 
pointer for the applicable signature policy; commitment type, and means 
  for 
expressing the role of the 
  signer. 

  
Signature policy concerns rules for the validation 
  of electronic signatures, 
regarding 
  business rules, such as roles. Frequency of signature validation 
  
for long term records is one of a number of 
  technical aspects. 

  
The specification has been passed on to the W3C 
  DSIG workgroup which is 
reviewing 
  it. 

  
Section 4 gives an overview of the purpose of the 
  ETSI specification. 

  
2. XML security timestamping protocol (Juan Carlos 
  Cruellas) 

  
This document is similar to the ETSI document in 
  that both deal with 
timestamping protocols, 
  though this may be expressed as OID's rather than 
URN's. 

  
Different models of timestamping use cases 
  contained in the document may be 
useful to 
  this TC. 

  
3. Verisign's "Authenticating downloaded content" 
  was introduced by Ram 
Moskowitz. This 
  focuses on content distribution security and a possible code 
signing replacement. It involves centralizing the functions 
  at a server 
which has the role of 
  authenticating rather than through widely distributed 
keys. 

  
It is not written for XML but the design could be 
  expressed in XML. 

  
4. Use of input documents. 

  
Hal Lockhart reminded the group of the IPR Oasis 
  Rules- Each input document 
must have IPR 
  statements per Oasis Rules, from all contributors, even with 
respect to publicly posted conference documents, which still 
  may be subject 
to copyrights. 
  

  
5. Use cases 

  
The Chair suggested that use cases might be helpful 
  to consider in relation 
to a requirements 
  document. A use case subcommittee was proposed. It could 
act as 1. a repository of use cases and 2. a recommending 
  body for those use 
cases that it finds as 
  helpful for the TC requirements documents. 

  
There may also be national or regional legal 
  requirements that may make 
certain use 
  cases that are acceptable under one legal regime impossible to 
  
achieve in another geographical area with a 
  different system of laws. 

  
Krishna Sankar, Manoj Srivastava, John Messing, and 
  Nick Pope volunteered 
for the 
  subcommittee. 

  
The creation of a subcommittee with the volunteer 
  membership was duly moved, 
discussed 
  
and adopted. 

  
The January 13, 2003 meeting of the TC will be 
  sponsored by Krishna Sankar. 
Other sponsors 
  for other meetings are sought. There being no further 
business, the meeting was convened at 1:00 PM EST by the 
  Chair.