Thanks George, greatly appreciated. I have every confidence that you
will represent the group in the best manner possible.
Best regards, thanks for being at this meeting.
John
Brown, George W wrote:
> John,
>
> I have taken note of expectation of how we represent ourselves and our
> TC at this meeting.
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hardin [mailto:]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 6:29 AM
> To: Carol Geyer
> Cc: 'James Bryce Clark'; ; Brown, George
> W; Goran Zugic; Sally St. Amand; ebSOA
> Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum submission
>
> Carol and Jamie -
>
> I have copied George W. Brown, Vasco Drecun and Sally St. Amand, as they
>
> will be attending the meeting, and George will be giving the address
> describing the FERA based SOA, and Vasco and Sally will sit on a panel
> that will discuss the same in a question / answer sort of way. I believe
>
> that I have committment from all three. I have copied the rest of the TC
>
> for an FYI. Unfortunately neither I nor Goran will be able to attend...
>
> In addition, I have asked that they act as official representatives of
> the ebSOA TC, and describe the activities of the TC, the planned ebXML
> Technical Architecture v2.0 and the impact that federated soa
> architectures will have on IT in the near future. One of the primary
> drivers for our TC is to ensure that we are as closely aligned as we can
>
> be with the other SOA focused TC's, so that overall we are all
> supporting each other instead of appearing fragmented.
>
> George, please take note of Jamie's instruction here regarding how we
> represent ourselves and our TC at this meeting:
>
>
>
> Carol Geyer wrote:
>
>>Actually, we have a web page that addresses this issue:
>
> http://www.oasis-open.org/private/presenting.php. John, please review
> and
>
>>let me know if you have any questions or if I can help in any way.
>>
>>Carol
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: James Bryce Clark [mailto:]
>>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:38 PM
>>To:
>>Cc:
>>Subject: Fwd: [ebsoa] Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum submission
>>
>> Hi John. I am sharing with Carol so she can give it her eye as
>
> well. Glad to hear you're doing this, but we have our message
>
>>sync issues
>>too: Obviously including
>>
>> -- Caution in making clear when you're speaking for you, versus
>
> for a TC you chair.
>
>> -- There is no "OASIS Technical Architecture" -- so that reference
>
> will need to be corrected -- maybe there's an OASIS-authored
>
>>"ebXML" TA v2.0 in the works. References to it need to be clear
>
> about whether it exists or is in process.
>
>> -- Obviously the other ebXML TCs (and other OASIS projects)
>
> reserve the right to speak for themselves.
>
>>Also be advised there may be other OASIS SOA-oriented presentations at
>
> that
>
>>meeting. I'll let you know as soon as I'm clear about that. Not
>
> trying
>
>>to throw too much cold water here, it looks like a great event, I just
>
> wanted to give you a heads-up about the parameters of
>
>>speaking foe an OASIS TC. Carol will be more informative (and nicer
>
> too no doubt).
>
>> Regards Jamie
>>
>>
>>Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:45:38 -0400
>>
>>
>>>From: John Hardin <>
>>>User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206)
>>>X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
>>>To: John Hardin <>
>>>CC: ,
>>>"Brown, George W" <>,
>>>ebSOA <>
>>>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2005 21:45:44.0839 (UTC)
>>>FILETIME=[7D1CF970:01C5BD63]
>>>X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on
>>> hermes.oasis-open.org
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>>>version=2.64
>>>X-Spam-Level:
>>>Subject: [ebsoa] Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum submission
>>>
>>>Jill, here is the abstract for the additional panel session we are
>>>suggesting. We will have several SOA experts in attendance to sit on
>>>the panel. This is an accompanyment for George W. Brown's
>
> presentation:
>
>>>"This panel discussion will feature leading pioneers in SOA based
>>>architectures, including OASIS SOA, ebXML and Web Services specs
>
> leaders.
>
>>>Topics will cover shortfalls of the existing framework that has driven
>
>
>>>adoption of SOA up to this point, and the planned work that will
>>>provide a complete architectural guideline for stable, enterprise
>
> ready
>
>>>SOA's. The panel is currently working toward completion of the
>
> upcoming
>
>>>OASIS Technical Architecture 2.0, with FERA-based SOA Information
>>>Models providing the complete framework for the next generation of
>>>distributed application networking."
>>>
>>>John Hardin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jill,
>>>>I chair the OASIS ebSOA technical committee (see the sig at the
>>>>bottom) and am submitting this information for the SOA Conference. I
>>>>have completed the form online with the information included here
>
> also.
>
>>>>Here is the abstract:
>>>>"This presentation will introduce methods and a set of principles and
>
>
>>>>guidelines for consistently and accurately deploying value chain
>>>>processes within a SOA. The approach is based on a two-tiered
>>>>framework, Integrated Process and Technology Framework, in which
>>>>business semantics are first defined through applicaton of a value
>>>>chain reference model, VCOR (Value Chain Operations Reference model),
>
>
>>>>and then a conceptual architecture, FERA (Federated Enterprise
>>>>Reference Architecture), facilitates mapping business collaboration
>>>>patterns to the appropriate capabilities within a SOA infrastructure.
>
>
>>>>The transformation of the models of collaborative process patterns to
>
>
>>>>the SOA runtime environment is accomplished through a SOA Informaton
>>>>Model that is part of a proposed SOA standard. The FERA-based SOA
>>>>specifications will be introduced to describe how they provide full
>>>>enterprise-level SOA support from both a functional as well as
>>>>implementational point of view. The presentation utilizes a supply
>>>>chain use case, Logistics Network Services, to illustrate how the
>>>>fully defined SOA collaboration semantics resolve the problem of
>
> semantic integration."
>
>>>>George, here is what I submitted for you:
>>>>Speaker First Name* George
>>>>Speaker Last Name* Brown
>>>>Speaker Title* Senior Program Manager, Value Chain Integration
>>>>Company* Intel Corp
>>>>Street Address* 2200 Mission College Blvd.
>>>>City* Santa Clara
>>>>State* CA
>>>>Zip Code* 95052
>>>>Country US of A
>>>>Phone* 800-628-8686
>>>>Fax
>>>>Email*
>>>>Speaker type* Analyst/Practitioner
>>>>Session type* Analyst/Practitioner Discussion
>>>>Primary Job Function (limit 50 words)* Responsible for driving
>>>>cross-functional strategic analysis/planning teams to methods and
>>>>tools to ensure Intel reaches its goals in Supply Chain Management.
>>>>
>>>>Bio (approx 100 words)*
>>>>George has served three terms on the Supply Chain Council Board of
>>>>Directors, having been Chair of the Council in 2002-2003 and the SCC
>>>>R&D Strategy Committee. George Is currently on the Board of Directors
>
>
>>>>for the Value Chain Group. Before joining Intel worked as a Senior
>>>>Staff Specialist and Software Architect at GDE Systems, Inc., a
>
> Senior
>
>>>>Program Manager at SAIC and a Principal Software Engineer at Digital
>>>>Equipment Corporation. George has advanced degrees in Aerospace
>>>>Engineering from Georgia Institute of Technology.
>>>>
>>>>Proposed Conference Format*
>>>>Powerpoint presentation and speaking.
>>>>
>>>>Proposed Session Title*
>>>>SOA Principles and FERA (Federated Enterprise Reference Architecture)
>>>>
>>>>What Attendees Will Learn from this Speaker (3-5 bullet points on the
>
>
>>>>Speaker's area of expertise)*
>>>>- mapping business collaboration patterns to the appropriate
>>>>capabilities within a SOA infrastructure
>>>>- transformation of the models of collaborative process patterns to
>>>>the SOA runtime environment
>>>>- SOA Information Models required to accomplish stable, flexible and
>>>>comprehensive Service Oriented Architectures
>>>>
>>>>Who Should Attend (limit 50 words)*
>>>>Sr. Technologists
>>>>CTO's and CIO's
>>>>Lead Engineers and Architects
>>>>
>>>>Audio/Visual Requirements*
>>>>Projector & Microphone
>>>>
>>>>Presentation Materials (PowerPoint, hand outs, etc.)* Powerpoint and
>>>>handouts
>>>>
>>>>Does this speaker agree to video and/or audio recording?* Yes If you
>>>>are completing this for a speaker, plese complete the following
>>>>fields:
>>>>Contact First Name* john
>>>>Contact Last Name* hardin
>>>>Contact Title* cto
>>>>Contact Company* MedAccessPlus Health Informatics Network
>>>>Street Address* 123 Town Square
>>>>City* Manchester
>>>>State* Kentucky
>>>>Zip Code* 40962
>>>>Phone Number* 606.596.1061
>>>>E-mail Address*
>>>>
>>>>Brown, George W wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>John, I confirm. George
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> -
>
>>>>>---
>>>>>
>>>>>*From:* Hamid Ben Malek [mailto:]
>>>>>*Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2005 10:30 AM
>>>>>*To:* John Hardin
>>>>>*Cc:* Brown, George W; Goran Zugic; ;
>
>
>>>>>David RR Webber; Sally St. Amand
>>>>>*Subject:* RE: InfoWorld SOA Forum
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry I can't participate. I will be in Redmond Washington for the
>>>>>WS-RX F2F.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hamid.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: John Hardin [mailto:]
>>>>>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:22 AM
>>>>>To: Sally St. Amand
>>>>>Cc: Brown, George W; Goran Zugic; ;
>>>>>David RR Webber; Hamid Ben Malek
>>>>>Subject: Re: InfoWorld SOA Forum
>>>>>Importance: High
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>OK, it looks like we will have George presenting the primary
>>>>>
>>>>>presentation and Sally, Vasco and George and possibly David Webber
>
> on
>
>>>>>the panel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Let me know today if this works for all - I will complete the
>>>>>
>>>>>registration of the abstracts once I recieve OK from all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>john
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sally St. Amand wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>George
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Your presenting provides a strong voice for ebSOA-FERA. I am
>>>>>>planning on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>attending but feel as though I am still validating concepts and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>approaches with the work you all have done.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>While you were not part of the conversation on Thurs, for me more
>>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>those conversations will insure agreement and an ability to
>>>>>>advance the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>work as we build off each others ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>The conversation was on orchestration.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I found the discussion valuable I would hope we can schedule like
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>discussion on future concalls and follow them up with specifics in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>emails (or a wiki, if I can dare to dream).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sally
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>*/"Brown, George W" <>/* wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Goran,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I did respond that I could go if it makes sense for me to
>>>>>>represent
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> the ebsoa TC. I would certainly abdicate to Vasco or join him
>>>>>>if
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> agreed. Let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> George
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> -
>
>>>>>---
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Goran Zugic [mailto:]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2005 5:53 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:* Sally St. Amand; Brown, George W;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ; ; David RR
>>>>>>Webber;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject:* InfoWorld SOA Forum
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I keep this between us editors for now until we see if we'll be
>
>
>>>>>>able
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> to submit the abstracts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> John has not sent the abstracts for the SOA Executive Forum
>>>>>>yet. He
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> has not got any response from the list when asking who was able
>
>
>>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> attend. I will not be able to go. John cannot make it either.
>>>>>>My
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> understanding is that Sally can go. I think that if George
>>>>>>and/or
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Vasco and/or David can also go we should submit the abstracts.
>>>>>>For
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> now we have two abstracts: one from George and another one from
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> John. We can still make it depending on who else can also go.
>>>>>>The
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> deadline is this Monday Sept 19th. InfoWorld is a big
>>>>>>publication
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> and I believe that we could get a nice "initial publicity" for
>>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ebSOA TC SOA work over there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> George's Abstract
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ===================
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "This presentation will introduce methods and a set of
>>>>>>principles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> and guidelines for consistently and accurately deploying value
>>>>>>chain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> processes within a SOA. The approach is based on a two-tiered
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> framework, Integrated Process and Technology Framework, in
>>>>>>which
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> business semantics are first defined through applicaton of a
>>>>>>value
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> chain reference model, VCOR (Value Chain Operations Reference
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> model), and then a conceptual architecture, FERA (Federated
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Enterprise Reference Architecture), facilitates mapping
>>>>>>business
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> collaboration patterns to the appropriate capabilities within a
>
>
>>>>>>SOA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> infrastructure. The transformation of the models of
>>>>>>collaborative
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> process patterns to the SOA runtime environment is accomplished
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> through a SOA Informaton Model that is part of a proposed SOA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> standard. The FERA-based SOA specifications will be introduced
>>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> describe how they provide full enterprise-level SOA support
>>>>>>from
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> both a functional as well as implementational point of view.
>>>>>>The
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> presentation utilizes a supply chain use case, Logistics
>>>>>>Network
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Services, to illustrate how the fully defined SOA collaboration
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> semantics resolve the problem of semantic integration."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> John's Abstract for the panel dicussion
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ===========================
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "This panel discussion will feature leading pioneers in SOA
>>>>>>based
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> architectures, including OASIS SOA, ebXML and Web Services
>>>>>>specs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> leaders. Topics will cover shortfalls of the existing framework
>
>
>>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> has driven adoption of SOA up to this point, and the planned
>>>>>>work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> that will provide a complete architectural guideline for
>>>>>>stable,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> enterprise ready SOA's. The panel is currently working toward
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> completion of the upcoming OASIS Technical Architecture 2.0,
>>>>>>with
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> FERA-based SOA Information Models providing the complete
>>>>>>framework
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> for the next generation of distributed application networking."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> SOA Executive Forum InfoWorld link
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.infoworld.com/event/speaker_form.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Goran
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>
>>>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~
>
>>>>>~
>>>>>
>>>>>| john c hardin
>>>>>
>>>>>| Chief Technology Officer
>>>>>
>>>>>| http://www.maphin.net
>>>>>
>>>>>| 606.598.7353 office
>>>>>
>>>>>| 606.813.4316 cell
>>>>>
>>>>>| mailto:
>>>>>
>>>>>|
>>>>>
>>>>>| Chair - OASIS ebSOA Technical Committee
>>>>>
>>>>>| http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa
>>>>>
>>>>>|
>>>>>
>>>>>|
>>>>>
>>>>>| "The new electronic interdependence recreates the world in the
>>>>>
>>>>>| image of a global village."
>>>>>
>>>>>|
>>>>>
>>>>>| Marshall McLuhan, "Gutenberg Galaxy", 1962
>>>>>
>>>>>|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ~
>
>>>>>|~
>>>
>>>--
>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>| john c hardin
>>>| Chief Technology Officer
>>>| http://www.maphin.net
>>>| 606.598.7353 office
>>>| 606.813.4316 cell
>>>| mailto:
>>>|
>>>| Chair - OASIS ebSOA Technical Committee
>>>| http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa
>>>|
>>>|
>>>| "The new electronic interdependence recreates the world in the
>>>| image of a global village."
>>>|
>>>| Marshall McLuhan, "Gutenberg Galaxy", 1962
>>>|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| john c hardin
| Chief Technology Officer
| http://www.maphin.net
| 606.598.7353 office
| 606.813.4316 cell
| mailto:
|
| Chair - OASIS ebSOA Technical Committee
| http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa
|
|
| "The new electronic interdependence recreates the world in the
| image of a global village."
|
| Marshall McLuhan, "Gutenberg Galaxy", 1962
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
