RE: comment on TA specification

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Stefano POGLIANI <>
To
Martin W Sachs <>, Duane Nickull <>
Date
2001-01-18T09:20:52Z
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RE: comment on TA specification
Marty,

	I found that many of the comments you highlight just map my list of
comments.
I would deal in this mail on the comments you made on the Appendix, since it
was originally written by me. I have submitted a new version to Duane after
the TA V1.0 was published to deal with some of the comments, but not
everything you mention. Using your comments, I created a new version of teh
Appendix which is attached here.

Here below are my comments.

Best regards

/Stefano

�
� Line 1102 and following:  This appendix makes frequent use of the term TPP
� (Trading Partner Profile).  The TA specification does not define the
� difference between a TPP and a CPP and the TP team is not defining such a
� (presumably higher level) document.  Please change TPP to CPP throughout
� this appendix.

	I have done it.

�
� Line 1142:  As noted above, the CPA does not reference the relevant TPPs
� (i.e. CPPs).  Please delete this line.
�

	You are right. This was an inheritance of the understanding before the
	f2f of the beginning of october. I actually removed the whole construct
	which was saying :
		The CPA references :
			- the relevant TPPs
			- the legal terms and conditions related to the exchange.
	I removed this construct consistently in the appendix since it appeared
	more than once.

� Line 1143:  Please delete this line.  The CPA does not reference legal
� terms and conditions in any architecturally meaningful way.  It
� may provide a #PCDATA field for recording the ID of an associated legal
contract, but
� that is all.

	You are right. See previous comment.

�
� Line 1144-1158:  These bullets relate to implementation, not to what the
� TPP (CPP) defines.  Please start a new "subhead" about implementation.

	Actually, the formatting in the final document was lost. The sentence
	starting with "The partners implement..." actually starts a new
	bullet.

�
� Line 1145 and elsewhere:  Please delete this line and other references to
� Business Service Interface. I can't find a definition of such a construct.
� It probably refers to the B2B middleware.  Perhaps one could say "obtains
� the necssary middleware".

	This reference appears more than once.
	I may agree with you on changing the reference to the BSI with a more
	loose definition. But I found that the term "Business Service Interface"
	appears many times in the TA document. For this reason I think that
	it is not "something new".

	At the moment I did not apply your proposed change in view of your
	comment on this: let me know what you think.

�
� Line 1174-1175:  This statement appears to say that each trading partner
is
� fully aware of the state of the entire process.  That is not correct.  At
� this stage of the development of the CPA and its support software, each
� partner is only aware of the state of its interactions with the other
� partner in the CPA.  In this case, TP 1 knows only about the state with
� respect to TP2, TP3 only knows about the state with respect to TP2, and
� only TP2 is aware of the total state of the three parties.

	I think this is what is written here. Probably the sentence

	"The assumption is that the �state� of the entire Business Process is
	managed by each Trading Partner,..."

	is the one that makes the confusion. But later in the same sentence
	it is clearly said that :

	"each Trading Partner is fully responsible of the commercial transaction
	involving it..."

	and the examples say that.

�
� Line 1201:  As noted above, the CPA does not reference the relevant TPPs
� (i.e. CPPs).  Please delete this line.

	See previous comment.
�
� Terminology:  After extensive discussions, the TP team is consistently
� using the term "Party" to denote the owner of a CPP and a participant in a
� CPA.  the TA team may wish to update the architecture document to agree.

	I tried to do in this new version. You may want to double check if the
	"replace" did not go too deep

�
� Regards,
� Marty
�
�
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