Right, that's what I meant, just got the companies mixed
up.
Appologies to the original authors.
Chris
wrote:
> Original SOAP spec came from Dave Winer @ UserLand as well as Microsoft.
>
> A Brief History of SOAP
> http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2001/04/04/soap.html
>
> -Michael
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> <Signature>
> <Name>Michael Dockham</Name>
> <Company>Cargill, Inc.</Company>
> <Department>Food I/T</Department>
> <Job_Desc>Strategy & Architecture - Technical
> Architect</Job_Desc>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto:]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:27 AM
> To:
> Cc: ;
> Subject: Re: [ebxml-dev] ebXML has failed !
>
>
> Brad,
>
> Just to be clear...
>
> The ebXML SOAP extensions did NOT come from Microsoft, they were
> developed by the ebXML Messaging team although Microsoft
> did participate briefly in the review of the extensions
> after they were developed.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
> Lund, Brad wrote:
>
>
>>I am not sure where you are getting this from. I know for a fact that
>>
> IBM
>
>>has a presence on both the ebXML CPPA and Messaging specification
>>development teams. As for Microsoft's support, I am not sure I have
>>
> heard
>
>>what you are claiming, do you have a link or some other why to
>>
> substantiate
>
>>this? I know that ebXML Messaging uses SOAP extensions which clearly
>>
> came
>
>>out of Microsoft. Vendor support, well, better than 95% of the people
>>developing the ebXML specifications are vendors i.e. Tibco, Intel,
>>SeeBeyond, IBM, SUN, Commerce One, WebMethods, Sterling, etc. ebXML
>>
> has
>
>>wide industry support and acceptance. The current version of the
>>
> Messaging
>
>>specification is going before the Oasis board for review with the CPPA
>>specification to follow shortly.
>>
>>So, I feel that your title " ebXML has failed !" is very wrong!!! and
>>
> you
>
>>really should try to use a different approach!
>>
>>bl
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Fraser Goffin [mailto:]
>>Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:38 AM
>>To:
>>Subject: [ebxml-dev] ebXML has failed !
>>
>>
>>Not trying to start a flame war, but having recently read Michael
>>
> Rawlins
>
>>set of articles which paint a somewhat pessimistic assessment of what
>>
> has
>
>>come out of the 18 months to establish the ebXML specifications, I am
>>naturally somewhat concerned.
>>
>>Does anyone feel able to offer some more encouraging words ?
>>
>>My company is at the very stages of a web services strategy and of
>>
> course we
>
>>want to back those standards which are going to have a sustainable
>>
> market
>
>>presence. Clearly this is not a precise science but, again recently I
>>
> read
>
>>that Microsoft have actively disagreed with the concept (need for)
>>
> ebXML.
>
>>Whereas Micorosofts' endorcement is certainly not a requirement, like
>>
> many
>
>>others, my organisation is a pretty large user of MS technolgies and
>>
> their
>
>>opinions and ultimately their support in our IT initatives can be
>>significant factors of choice (certainly in the hearts and minds of
>>
> senior
>
>>management). Again I'm looking for the views of other ebXML developers
>>
> /user
>
>>organisations, so that I have a balanced view of the pros/cons
>>
> arguments and
>
>>can deal with any 'knee jerk' reactions that might arise from various
>>quarters.
>>
>>In terms of vendor support, has IBM commented on ebXML ?
>>
>>Maybe I read too much :-)
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Fraser.
>>
>>
>>
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