Re: [ebxml-msg] Re: Comments on the 1.09 about ConversationId

From
Christopher Ferris <>
Date
2001-12-07T14:36:58+00:00
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Re: [ebxml-msg] Re: Comments on the 1.09 about ConversationId
None at all.

Doug Bunting wrote:

> Shimamura-san,
> 
> Yes, that's what I'm proposing.
> 
> Chris,
> 
> This was your suggestion, do you mind removing the complexity?
> 
> Team,
> 
> What do you think we're losing if we remove the ability to use
> SequenceNumber with NotGuaranteed behaviour?  Put another way, do we foresee
> sliding-window (per-conversation not per-sender) Reliable Messaging
> implementations that don't turn the messages over to the application in
> order?
> 
> thanx all,
>     doug
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SHIMAMURA Masayoshi" <>
> To: "Doug Bunting" <>; <>
> Cc: <>
> Sent: Thursday, 06 December 2001 02:31
> Subject: Re: Comments on the 1.09 about ConversationId
> 
> 
> Doug and Chris,
> 
> On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 09:06:23 -0800
> Doug Bunting <> wrote:
> ...
> 
>>I recommended, in my comments on the schema and the second half, removal
>>
> of
> 
>>the messageOrderSemantics attribute and requiring SequenceNumber in
>>MessageOrder.  The current module is more complicated than necessary,
>>
> 
> I think that the Doug's change proposal about MessageOrder means:
>     - When MessageOrder element appears, message order is guaranteed. If
>       it does not appears, message order is not guaranteed.
>     - The MessageOrder element has always SequenceNumber element inside.
> Is that correct, Doug?
> 
> In the current specification (v1.09), SequenceNumber may appear even if
> MessageOrderSemantics is set to NotGuaranteed so that receiving
> application can use the SequenceNumber to guarantee message order by
> itself. I think it was Chris's idea. See:
>    http://lists.ebxml.org/archives/ebxml-transport/200103/msg00099.html
>    http://lists.ebxml.org/archives/ebxml-transport/200103/msg00101.html
>    http://lists.ebxml.org/archives/ebxml-transport/200103/msg00102.html
>    http://lists.ebxml.org/archives/ebxml-transport/200103/msg00104.html
> 
> Doug's change proposal removes the feature. Chris, what do you think?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
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