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RE: [ebxml-msg] FW: Informal input to ebMS

From
Mike Dillon - Drummond Group <>
Date
2002-10-15T13:06:45+00:00
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RE: [ebxml-msg] FW: Informal input to ebMS
Hi 
Doug,

 

Thanks 
for taking the time to look at the feedback.  Let me do some more digging 
on

your 
comments and get back to you tommorrow.

 

I 
thought you might have some thoughts on our latest discussion/issue.  
Essentially

some 
implementations are returning an asynchronous ack before returning the 

orginal http 204 response, and this is causing timing/resource 
issues.

In 
other words, I send you a message with no sync reply, I receive your 
Ack

asynchronously, then next I receive your http response 
synchronously.

 

Thanks 
for your time and interest,

mike 
dillon



 

817 
875 0794

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Bunting 
  [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:15 
  PM
To: Jeff Turpin
Cc: 
  
Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] FW: Informal 
  input to ebMS

Jeff and Mike, 
  
I have a couple of questions on the consensus items: 
  
    
"cid based start parameter in the MIME Content-Type header" does not 
    sound at all legal according to the MIME specifications.  The start 
    MIME parameter accepts a content identifier as its value (the part of a cid 
    URI after the colon), not a URI. 
    
"Payloads are not canonicalized during the digital signing process" 
    seems to head away from interoperability.  If any intermediate makes a 
    relatively small change (say, modifying the character set) to a payload, the 
    recipient will be unable to validate the signature.  Canonicalization 
    serves a number of useful purposes such as reducing the impact of 
    inconsequential changes.  (And, in most cases, XML comments are not 
    consequential.) 
I much appreciated the sequence diagrams.  I'm 
  reminded of one of the issues from the list because the diagrams once again 
  point out an inability to request the business response and MSH 
  acknowledgement in the same (asynchronous) message.  You can't create a 
  derivative of (3b) putting the two "responses" together without combining them 
  with a synchronous reply. 
  
Your thoughts? 
  
thanx, 
    doug 
  
Jeff Turpin wrote: 
  -----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Dillon - 
    Drummond Group [mailto:] 
    
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:53 PM 
To: Jeff Turpin 
    
Subject: FW: Informal input to ebMS 
    
Hi Jeff, 
    
 I just sent this yesterday.  I will also send 
 more 
    formal feedback at the end of the tests.... 
    
 mike 
  
 817 875 0794 
    
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Dillon - Drummond Group [mailto:] 
    
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:59 PM 
To:  
    
Subject: Informal input to ebMS 
    
Hi Ian, 
    
 Attached is some input based on the current/past DGI ebMS interops. 

    
 Also, attached are some examples of sequence diagrams we have been 
    
 building, we would be willing to expand on these for inclusion 
    
 in the spec or in some type of implementation guide... 
    
 Can you forward me the concall number for the meetings Thursday, 
    
 I'd like to dial in if that is ok with you. 
    
 Thanks ! 
    
 Have fun in Miami ! 
    
 Mike Dillon 
  
 817 875 
    0794
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