RE: [ebxml-msg] SOAP 1.2 MTOM and ebMS v3

From
Pim van der Eijk <>
Date
2007-04-05T20:01:36+00:00
ID
002a01c777bd$2ed8e880$9700000a@SonyVaio
Thread
RE: [ebxml-msg] SOAP 1.2 MTOM and ebMS v3
Perhaps this issue should be raised in the Registry TC instead of 
Messaging? As far as I know there was an ebXML Messaging SMTP interface to ebXML 
Registry v2.0 and some interest to upgrade this to v3.0 from IHE, but did this 
ever happen?  Is the request about upgrading the simple SOAP interface 
to use MTOM?   But then the next request would be to upgrade the 
interface to support addressing, and security, and reliability, and 
... 

 

Should we update the ebMS interface to Registry v3.0?  
Now 
that we are getting closer to having all ebXML modules to a 3.0 level, we 
definitely should look at providing ebMS 3.0 Sync and Push-and-Pull (client 
Pushes request to, pulls responses from, registry) interfaces.  The 
mapping of ebRS to ebMS2 or ebMS3 (via ebCPA2/3) did not seem to be a complex 
challenge, last time I checked ..

 

Pim van der 
Eijk

From: David RR Webber (XML) 
[mailto:] 
Sent: 05 April 2007 18:47
To: Ric 
Emery
Cc: ; 

Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] SOAP 1.2 MTOM and ebMS 
v3

Ric,

 

Microsoft is proposing this for IHE/XDS registry web service 
interfacing.

 

Perhaps we should invite them to discuss on conference call?

 

DW

"The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)

-------- 
  Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] SOAP 1.2 MTOM and ebMS 
  v3
From: Ric Emery <>
Date: Thu, April 05, 2007 
  12:28 pm
To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <>, 
  <>
Cc: 
  <>

SOAP with 
  attachments is expressly supported in the ebMS 3.0 core features. MTOM support 
  is not mentioned.
I would be concerned with MTOM usage since there is no 
  mention of MTOM in the ebMS 3.0 spec. My opinion is that it would be 
  problematic for an MSH to utilize MTOM without the specification outlining its 
  use. 

If MTOM usage is important the user base we should be able to 
  discuss its use in a future addendum or part 2 of the ebMS 3 spec. Is there a 
  reason that you think MTOM should be an 
  option?

Thanks,
ric

On 4/5/07 9:04 AM, "David RR Webber 
  (XML)" <> wrote:

  Team,
 
How does this relate to ebMS v3 
    ?
 
 http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-mtom/
 
Is it just 
    transparent - in that if two ebMS are using SOAP 1.2 with MTOM - then they 
    can exchange transmissions accordingly - but controlled by the CPA and ebMS 
    settings?  Or is MTOM re-inventing ebMS routing and handling and 
    therefore likely to cause chaos?
 
Trying to figure out the 
    implications here!
 
Thanks, DW

"The way to be is to do" - 
    Confucius (551-472 B.C.)