Peter,
Agreed - we need both. I just would not lead with the DSig stuff - as that's very "tech' head" stuff. I think the average voter cares more about being able to trust the software behind the voting systems - and that it can be independently checked...
Also dsig is better positioned as authentication of the voting source - where the particular ballot originated from.
Time of course will tell on all this - I'm seeing we need to tell the complete story - open standards with vote authentication together.
DW
"The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [election-services] OASIS Demo for NASS / NASED
> From: "Zelechoski, Peter" <>
> Date: Sun, November 04, 2007 12:51 pm
> To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <>
> Cc: "John Borras" <>, "eml"
> <>, "Lori Steele"
> <>, "Craig Burton" <>
>
> David -
>
> I think you missed the point. Interoperability is one key item we must
> demonstrate. HOWEVER, in the US (and elsewhere I would argue) the
> validation of the authenticity of a message is a major factor that we
> must also demonstrate. Definitely, for the VVSG, the security aspects
> demand that we demonstrate this.
>
> - Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:]
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 10:26 AM
> To: Zelechoski, Peter
> Cc: John Borras; eml; Lori Steele; Craig Burton
> Subject: RE: [election-services] OASIS Demo for NASS / NASED
>
> Peter,
>
> I would not bet the farm on DSig for VVSG verification - by far the best
> factor IMHO is that the specifications are open public and therefore
> independently verifiable with conformance suites that can valid the
> ballots and records and counts.
>
> Having multiple vendors show interoperability makes that point most
> eloquently of course.
>
> ; -)
>
> DW
>
> "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
>
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: RE: [election-services] OASIS Demo for NASS / NASED
> > From: "Zelechoski, Peter" <>
> > Date: Fri, November 02, 2007 4:32 pm
> > To: "John Borras" <>, "eml"
> > <>, "Lori Steele"
> > <>, "Craig Burton" <>
> >
> > John, et al. -
> >
> > This looks fine. I think it is worth singling out the use of digital
> > signatures as a high level demonstration of EML's ability to fulfill
> the
> > requirement for VVSG to verify all messages.
> >
> > - Peter
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: John Borras [mailto:]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:59 AM
> > To: eml; Lori Steele; Craig Burton
> > Subject: Re: [election-services] OASIS Demo for NASS / NASED
> >
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > Thanks for these thoughts, a very good starter for our discussions.
> > However before we get to this level of detail I think it would be very
> > useful to agree the objectives of the proposed Demo to focus our minds
> > on what we are trying to achieve before we descend into the weeds.
> > Below are my thoughts, not in any particular order of importance, and
> > I'd welcome agreement or otherwise on these please.
> >
> > - to show how EML can be used in a multi-channel e-voting ballot
> > involving several suppliers
> > - to localise the Demo in such a way as to ensure the ballots are
> > understandable to the American participants and conform to their usual
> > voting practices
> > - to show how EML can meet the requirements of the draft EAC Voluntary
> > Voting System Guidelines
> > - to show how the EML TC and the IEEE 1622 committee are collaborating
> > to deliver consistent outputs and interoperable solutions
> > - to demonstrate how EML can support multi-lingualism eg English,
> > Spanish, (others?)
> > - to help the audience better understand the scope, breadth,
> flexibility
> > and advantages of using EML
> > - to identify any weaknesses in v5 that need to be addressed in future
> > releases.
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > "Zelechoski, Peter" <> wrote:
> >
> > At the OASIS Demo this week, John asked us to think about doing
> > a demo in the US -- most likely at the NASS / NASED Conference that is
> > scheduled to take place in Washington DC this coming February.
> > I am attaching a draft outline for discussion amongst our TC.
> > - Peter
> > <<NassNasedKeyDemoPoints.ppt>>
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