RE: [emergency] RE: OMA Specification that may be highly relevant to EDXL work. Check it out.

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Bullard, Claude L (Len) <>
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2005-06-08T15:16:51+00:00
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RE: [emergency] RE: OMA Specification that may be highly relevant to EDXL work. Check it out.
Carl:

 

Versions of that drawing are older than 1999.   Feedback is 
feedback.  Existing 

fielded systems talk in terms of roles, subscriptions for 
publish/subscribe and 

so 
forth.  Outside of real-time 3D, I'm not even sure what terms like 
'presence' 

mean.

 

My 
concern is that over time, introducing more liaisons, 
organizations and overlapping 

standards will complicate the process, lengthen it, and dilute the 
outcome.  My hope 

is 
that DHS is able to create a strategy for short-term systems to be deployed in 
the 

next 
two years, middle term for the next five to seven years, and out to ten years 
which 

is 
realistically as far as we can play.  For this to work, a Draconian 
reduction in the 

standards and terminology and organizations that produce them is 
required.  

 

Otherwise, this becomes CALS again and we will watch 
another $4 billion evaporate 

without fielding any interoperable systems.

 

cheers,

 

len

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Reed OGC 
  [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:49 
  PM
To: Bullard, Claude L (Len); 
  
Subject: Re: [emergency] RE: OMA 
  Specification that may be highly relevant to EDXL work. Check it out. 
  

  
Claude -

  
 

  
Actually, the work of the IETF pre-dates anything being done in this area 
  by OASIS, the OGC, or OMA. The original SIP Internet RFC dates back to 1999. 
  SIP has been extended since then and there are a number of companion RFC's 
  related to presence, events, and so forth. And while PIDF and PIDF-LO are 
  working their way through the IETF process, I think that it is excellent that 
  OMA is building on the work of other standards organizations rather than 
  re-inventing the wheel. Further, the PIDF-LO draft leverages the work of the 
  OGC - uses GML 3.1.

  
 

  
Kind regards

  
 

  
Carl

  
 

  
    
----- Original Message ----- 

    
From: 
    Bullard, Claude L (Len) 

    
To: 'Carl Reed OGC' ; '' 
    

    
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 12:01 
    PM

    
Subject: RE: [emergency] RE: OMA 
    Specification that may be highly relevant to EDXL work. Check it out. 

    

    
It 
    is amazing how many ways and terms we can find to abstract 
    

    
roles and subscriptions so we can have yet another locus of 
    

    
control based standard.

    
 

    
Standards and speeches:  the full time consultant 
    economy.

    
 

    
Personally rooting for the DHS ontology efforts to tie it all 
    together.

    
 

    
len

    
      

From: Carl Reed OGC 
      [mailto:]

      

      
I dug around the Open Mobile Alliance (OMA) site - actually 
      looking for standards info OASIS can use as part of their EDXL work. 
      Reviewed a document titled OMA-TS-Presence_SIMPLE-V1_0-20050427-C. The intro 
      paragraph states:

      

      
The document defines an application level specification for 
      the OMA SIP/SIMPLE-based Presence Service. It defines the presence 
      information semantics for presence information conveyed using the Presence 
      Information Data Format (PIDF) the Rich Presence Information Data Format 
      (RPID) and geographical information conveyed in a GEOPRIV location object 
      (see [PIDFLO]) specified by the IETF in conjunction with the overall 
      Presence Data Model defined in 
    [PRESDATAMODEL].