David,
While what you say is true, these comments were made in respect to the
EIC work which does have the role of promoting the DRAFTs as well as the
Standards. We also have an OASIS Member Section that evolved from
the EIC for that purpose. So, our TC does get involved in these
discussions early on. In fact, the EIC has actually fostered and
paid for (with DHS/DM funding) demonstrations where the drafts were
used. This was done to determine if a Standard was produced - would
companies write to it? This is a normal part of our Standards
development process.
Yes, OASIS has clear rules about bragging rights. They are
available to OASIS any member who chose to demonstrate a use. This
opportunity may encourage some companies that have been working on or
considering a development to join OASIS. Recall, HAVE is a
derivative of an earlier work HavBed that is already in use in many
hospitals but is not a Standard in our sense of the word. There are
companies out there that would be inclined to move to HAVE for the
benefits of OASIS.
I hope this makes more clear the reason for our extending the reach of
call for use cases.
Elysa
At 12:23 PM 4/17/2008, David RR Webber \(XML\) wrote:
Elysa,
Marketing and PR should not be confused with support of
specifications!!!
OASIS has very clear rules on who gets to brag about implementing
solutions! ; -)
Once a specification is approved - then a press release is issued - and
at that point paying member companies and sponsor companies get to work
with OASIS on statements in that press release.
So it really is not up to the TC at all to get into any measuring or
claims exercise. If some company wants to make claims - that is up
to them and their legal department - and of course their customers - who
may contract with them.
Now - from a technical stance - we can publish XSD and CAM templates and
expect folks to use them to verify their solutions - but beyond that it
then passes to an entirely different task - one that you may setup a test
and conformance group to do separately - or companies may get together
and mutually issue such statements.
Thanks, DW
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [emergency] Use Case
From: Elysa Jones <>
Date: Thu, April 17, 2008 10:29 am
To:
TC Members,
We would like to nail down the TC's consensus on what constitutes a
"Use case" in our Standards. Most of you have been aware
of this topic but we have not nailed down a position. We must do
this before we can make the big push to get use cases for HAVE and
RM.
This topic came up during the EIC meeting yesterday. There are
several EIC members that know of companies that may want to be the first
or one of the first to advertise such a use case. We need to give
them specific wording on what constitutes this "use".
OASIS requires the statement to be in agreement with the conformance
clause of the specification. We as a TC can cause this to be more
or less stringent and there are schools of thought on both.
Please review the two positions on the matter identified below and
respond to the list on your preference. Although this does not
require a formal vote of the TC, I want to make sure we have a good
understanding and consensus on how we proceed.
Position 1:
Comply with the full element reference model - required elements at a
minimum. If a message is sent that complies with the ERM, then you
can be compliant with any of the specific messages.
Deliver a RequestResource message and a ResponsetoRequestResource
message (just 2 messages).
If a vendor does either or, for purposes of statement of use and
getting the standard out the door, this should be the minimum
requirement.
Position 2:
Agreed with position 1
A complete lifecycle of a "successful" Resource Deployment
should be the minimum:
RequestResource >
ResponseToRequestResource >
RequisitionResource >
CommitResource >
ReleaseResource.
The messages about the deployment, requesting information, release,
etc are not necessary, just the 5 listed.
NOW - please make your comments to the list. The Mst/Not SC
will schedule a meeting either Fri (4/18) or Mon (4/21) to discuss.
From this a recommendation will be made. Respond to this message
too with which date and what times you would be available.
Regards,
Elysa Jones
Chair, OASIS EM-TC
CTO/COO
Warning Systems, Inc.
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