RE: FW: [emix] Power storage strategies

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Edward Cazalet <>
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2010-05-01T15:34:00+00:00
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RE: FW: [emix] Power storage strategies
Gale,

I have added your statement
in your recent email to the power storage strategies thread below.

You said:

I missed
the call/discussion this week.  But wanted to note that the system
intelligence must be able to self discover and modify in some fashion as what
David Webber described.  When dealing with resources that can either
degrade or be upgraded/enhanced over time, we have to have an automatic
adjusting mechanism which is very similar to a discovery mechanism.
 Otherwise the system resources will either become underutilized or over
committed over time.

Are you advocating a discovery mechanism (1) within the plane of
control / single ownership boundary or (2) more globally in place of loose
coupling, market-based interactions outside the owner's boundary?

Ed

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From: Holmberg, David [mailto:]

Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 1:31 PM

To: David RR Webber (XML); Ed Cazalet

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Subject: RE: FW: [emix] Power storage strategies

I would add to that—even in the local scenario (i.e., within
single ownership boundary) a market based model can make sense. I still need
some value signal to determine balance of load, storage, and generation. Price
and markets allow for more distributed and simple control. Of course, once we look
at interactions with entities outside the owner’s boundary (call it the ESI),
we want loose coupling, market-based interactions. 

Thanks for a great discussion,

David

From: David RR Webber
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Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:04 PM

To: Ed Cazalet

Cc: ; 'Phil Davis';
; ; 'Considine,Toby (Campus
Services IT)'

Subject: RE: FW: [emix] Power storage strategies

Ed,

Yikes!!! I was not expecting that answer!  I just fell into a
time vortex back ten years to beginning of ebXML work.

My scenario was micro-economy local scenario - yours is macro
economy - eMarketplace model.  

Obviously infinite permutations of these once the supporting
infrastructure is there.

Very cool.  I like it!

Thanks, DW