Re: [ebsoa] RE: [fwsi] RE: [soa-rm] RE: [ebsoa] The real SOA challenge?

From
David Webber \(XML\) <>
Date
2005-11-16T03:54:54+00:00
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00ad01c5ea61$798e66b0$6401a8c0@DRRW01
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Re: [ebsoa] RE: [fwsi] RE: [soa-rm] RE: [ebsoa] The real SOA challenge?
Goran,

 

While I like what you say vis SOA here - I have to take you to task on 
history ; -)

 

The ebXML foundation came out of the work of the XML/edi Group aligned with 
the work of CEFACT on ooEDI.

 

It completely breaks the mold on EDI.  Yes - things like ebMS are 
founded on EDI+ communications - but the core of the ebXMl stack - 
registry-centric XML-driven collaboration - and the notion of the "Fusion of 
Five" is designed to sweep away the old EDI practices.  Unfortunately XML 
as implemented today is nothing more than a slightly better EDI.  The whole 
XML revolution is yet to truely take hold.

 

As for web services - this was a shameless grab by IBM and Microsoft - 
attempting to be first to market ahead of ebXML with concepts that in essence 
are nothing more than "real-time EDI" - with all the same strengths and 
weaknesses of the

original real-time EDI implementations - just using XML and the 
internet instead of EDI and private networks.

 

So much for history - no need to dwell there - the challenge now is to 
bring real business enabled XML-driven processes and SOA to fruition.

 

Cheers, DW

  
----- Original Message ----- 
  

  
 For example, Web Services are initiated with an idea of services 
  introduced by Microsoft 6-7 years ago and this idea has been formed from 
  distributed computing and component-based computing ideas and "learn on 
  mistakes" lessons from many organizations in 80s and 90s; ebXML is mostly 
  based on EDI ideas and "learn on mistakes" lessons, 
etc.