Re: [legalcitem] the trilogy of subcommittees

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Chet Ensign <>
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2014-02-20T15:02:42+00:00
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Re: [legalcitem] the trilogy of subcommittees
Brian, just so everyone is aware of this resource -- and I'll put a link to this on the TC's web page -- Robin Cover of OASIS collected a large number of references to work done on legal citations into a resource page that you can access here -> http://xml.coverpages.org/neutral-legal-citation-data-and-markup-models.html 

We can add to this collection of resources too if anyone has any additional pointers to suggest. 

I think this collection is a good started point for your questions. 

Best, 

/chet 

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Brian Carver <> wrote:

I think I agree with Daniel here, as this conversation has been making

me think that I hope we would take advantage of prior work in related

areas and not seek to re-invent the wheel where we conclude it's not

necessary.

In particular:

1. What other machine-readable taggings for citations (or something

similar) exist? Can we adapt one of these to legal citations?

2. What vocabularies and/or metadata standards already exist for legal

documents? Could we adopt or adapt one or more of these?

If it were possible to plug a vocabulary from 2 into an existing tagging

standard from 1, then that might allow us to build on the good work of

others rather than re-discovering all the pitfalls they previously

confronted.

Brian

On 02/19/2014 06:15 AM,  wrote:

> Here are my suggestions for three subcommittees:

>

>  1. Map the World

>  2. String Theory

>  3. Deduce the Use

>

>

>

> There has been some interesting jumping into the deep end of the pool in

> the discussions. I would suggest the shallow end first to better outline

> the needed steps including requirements gathering.

>

>

>

> I would love to see a good research effort to "map the world." To find

> the historical methods of citations, all of the current places that

> citations are used both in terms of jurisdictions and forms, and what is

> currently being done for electronic citations.

>

>

>

> Although some of the insights into cites in the discussions have been in

> depth and helpful, I would like to see the whole variety of issues

> involved in citations as strings. How to template, the URI/URN/IRI/URL,

> etc. and encoding and escaped characters and .... more "string theory."

>

>

>

> And lastly, but importantly, a look at the end use of these electronic

> citations. Are the citations going to be used in non-XML documents? Will

> metadata be added to an envelope of citation material? Should there be a

> standard authentication token/regime/recognition for the citation or the

> cited material? Do we map the machine readable to a human presentable

> format (like epub/HTML/PDF/etc)? Can we look at mobile apps usage? Use

> cases generally? We need to know what uses the citations may be used for

> or "deduce the use."

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> Daniel Bennett

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> 

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