RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] On Implementation-Specific Data

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RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] On Implementation-Specific Data
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Subject: RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] On Implementation-Specific Data




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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:20:28 -0700










>>using meaningful, 
unambiguous object names with clear definitions. This would make Court Filing 
XML inconsistent with the GJXDM 
<<
 
I don't see it as 
ambiguous.
I think that 
'implementationSpecificValue' says exactly what it is - a piece of data, that is 
specific to the implementation.
 
Within that data-item, there 
are unambiguous details about the data item, including its name and 
value.
 
 

>>I still believe locking down the Court Filing XML schema 
and allowing a separate message part with local elements or documents is the 
cleanest solution. <<
 
I don't know that I disagree with you, with respect to 
the cleanliness of what you are advocating.
Less flexibility usually makes the system easier to 
describe and to implement.
 
However, I think, in this instance, we 
must try to support an approach to implementation-specific data 
that is a little more convenient to use. It's a matter of 
practicality.
 
 
>> The "implementationSpecificValue" element you 
propose.  I believe this violates the ISO 11179 and Federal XML Developer's 
Guide rules regarding using elements rather than attributes 
<<
 
Not a big deal as to whether 
we use element/text() nodes or attribute="" approach.
Whatever we feel would 
be consistent with the existing GJXDM.
 
Maybe we might find an 
existing GJXDM element that fits closely with what we need 
here?.
 
- 
Shane
 
 
 


From: Cabral, James E. 
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[legalxml-courtfiling] On Implementation-Specific Data




Shane,
 
Using the approach of including local elements in 
the Court XML, I see 3 options:
 
1. The "implementationSpecificValue" element you 
propose.  I believe this violates the ISO 11179 and Federal XML Developer's 
Guide rules regarding using elements rather than attributes, and 
using meaningful, unambiguous object names with clear definitions. This 
would make Court Filing XML inconsistent with the GJXDM.  

 
2. The "any" element - forget it, it's 
a non-starter.  It's bad, bad, bad for so many reasons including the 
security issues that Don mentioned.
 
3. Allowing implementations to use the standard GJXDM mechanism for adding local elements through 
cascading extensions.  We tried it for OXCI - it's doesn't work well 
for the reasons I already described.
 
I 
still believe locking down the Court Filing XML schema and allowing a separate 
message part with local elements or documents is the cleanest 
solution.
 
  
jim

 












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