Re: [mqtt] Groups - Event "MQTT TC Meeting" modified

From
Chet Ensign <>
Date
2013-07-18T21:06:37+00:00
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Re: [mqtt] Groups - Event "MQTT TC Meeting" modified
Correct - almost all the information on a TC is publicly visible. The calendar and its events are publicly visible, read-only. 

TCs are certainly free to use Webex or GoToMeeting or other conferencing tools if they have access. OASIS doesn't have a conferencing system of its own for TCs - TCs have to make their own arrangements. 

/chet

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Paul Duffy <> wrote:

  
    
  
  

    
On 7/18/2013 3:07 PM, Chet Ensign
      wrote:

    

    
      
      
Hi Paul, 
        

        

        
Just to back up what Richard said, a number of TCs have had
          rogue callers crashing their conference calls - dialing in and
          either lurking or, worse, actively disrupting the meeting. I
          saw some other mentions of this outside of OASIS and I'm
          wondering if it is the current prank-du-jour among folks with
          nothing better to do. 

        

        

        
In any case, the meetings are of course only *supposed* to
          be open to members but once the meeting phone number and
          access code is out in public display, 

      

    
    

    Are you saying the meeting invites are publicly available?

    

    IIRC a member login was required to access it?

    

    

    
      

        
there's no way to stop this from happening. 

        

      

    
    

    Webex? GoToMeeting?

    

    More capable conferencing system?

    

    
      

        

        

        
Whence the work-around which seems to be unfortunately
          needed... 

        

        

        
/chet 

        

        

      

      

        

        
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Paul
          Duffy <>
          wrote:

          
            

              

                
On 7/18/2013 12:55 PM, Richard J Coppen wrote:

                

                 Hi
                    Paul, 

                  

                  OASIS experienced problems
                    with groups of individuals dialling in to TC calls
                    just to disrupt them.
                

              

              These were OASIS members?  IIRC
                    access to the meeting invite
                        requires membership
                              login, no?

                  

                
              

                 To
                    remedy this OASIS suggested that participant codes
                    should be changed and circulated as a bcc email to
                    each of the TC members. 

                  

                  I've just checked and I
                    included your registered email address in this
                    communication on the 06.06.2013, 19.06.2013 and
                    03.07.2013. 

                
                

              

              I show one on 6/6.
              

                

                 

                  At the TC's request, I
                    scheduled a repeating meeting invite in Kavi, which
                    was pre-loaded with the old participant code. When I
                    adjust the agenda each week I have to remember to
                    replace the old code with "as per email",
                    something I forgot to do that this week.

                  
                

              

              Please do so.  Leaving incorrect information
                    in the invite is not
                helpful in any way.

                

              
              

                 
                  

                  Apologies for any frustration
                    caused. Circulating the participant code separately
                    is an additional administrative overhead and far
                    from idea. 

                  

                  Since you were on the call, I
                    assume you now have the correct code ? 

                
                

              

              Correct
              

                

                  

                   

                    

                    Many thanks 

                    

                    Richard 

                    

                    
                      
                        

                          
                             
                        

                        

                           

                          
                        

                        

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                    From:
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                      Duffy <>
                    

                    To:
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                    Date:
                             18/07/2013
                      15:57 

                    Subject:
                             Re:
                      [mqtt] Groups - Event "MQTT TC Meeting" modified
                    

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                    Folks,

                      

                      I've been informed the access code was changed
                      some weeks back and NOT updated in the meeting
                      invite.

                      

                      Not good, and highly frustrating.

                      

                      

                      On 7/18/2013 10:47 AM, Paul Duffy wrote: 

                    I am unable to dial in with the
                      following information...

                    
                    
USA                            
                         Caller Paid     215-861-6239     

                        USA                              Toll-Free      
                          888-426-6840

                           

                    
For Other Countries: https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessCode=67241054&accessNumber=02030596451

                        Participant Code:       67241054 

                    

                        

                        

                        On 7/18/2013 8:35 AM, Richard Coppen wrote:
                    

                    
                      
                        

                          Event
                                Title: MQTT TC
                                  Meeting

                            
                            Date:
                              Thursday, 18 July 2013, 10:30am to 11:30am
                              EDT

                                Location: Telephone conference

                                Description 

                            Conference
                              call: AT&T dial-in Numbers

                              

                              UNITED KINGDOM    Toll-Free:      
                               0800-368-0638

                              UNITED KINGDOM    Caller Paid    
                              0-20-30596451

                              France                          Caller
                              Paid     0-170911580     

                              France                          Toll-Free
                                      0800-94-0558

                              Germany                      Caller Paid  
                                0-69-2443-2290     

                              Germany                      Toll-Free    
                                  0800-000-1018

                              USA                              Caller
                              Paid     215-861-6239
                                  

                              USA                              Toll-Free
                                      888-426-6840

                              Italy                               Caller
                              Paid     0-2-00621263     

                              Italy                              
                              Toll-Free         800-975100     

                            For Other
                              Countries: https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessCode=67241054&accessNumber=02030596451

                              Participant Code:       67241054 

                            OASIS chatroom
                              link is http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/mqtt
                            

                                RSVP

                                  This meeting counts towards voter
                                  eligibility.

                               

                            Agenda
                            

                            The proposed
                              agenda is as follows
                            
                              
Roll
                                  Call 

                              
Approve
                                  Agenda 

                              
Approve
                                  minutes from last meeting > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/mqtt/download.php/49826/OASIS_MQTT_TC_minutes_03072013.pdf < 

                              
Update
                                  on working draft (Andrew Banks / Rahul
                                  Gupta) 

                              
MQTT
                                  Security SC update (Richard Coppen /
                                  Geoff Brown) 

                              
Current
                                  timeline (Richard) 

                              
Review
                                  JIRA issues > https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&mode=hide&pid=10150 < 

                              
Close
                                  resolved issues (Richard) 

                              
Confirm
                                  date & time of next issue scrub
                                  call (Richard) 

                              
Confirm
                                  date & time of next meeting
                                  (Richard) 

                              
AOB
                              

                              
Call for
                                  late joiners 

                              
Close

                            
                            

                            
                            Owner:
                              Mr. Richard Coppen

                                Group: OASIS Message Queuing
                              Telemetry Transport (MQTT) TC

                                Sharing: This event is shared with
                              the OASIS Open (General Membership), and
                              General Public groups. Public
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