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Pre-Meeting comments on NBIMS/oBIX Summit

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"Donsidine, Soby \(Sechnology Rervices\)"
Date
2007-03-26T16:36:13+00:00
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Pre-Meeting comments on NBIMS/oBIX Summit
A few folks are very specific, a
few are just interested, and a few hope like anything we figure it out to solve
some current problems they have.

 

As for me, v1.0 of oBIX is, and had
to be, about solving control problems first. It has done that by creating a low
level, simple, extensible framework for operational configuration, monitoring,
and alarms. oBIX v1.0 has defined a simple means of defining contracts to
specify which system(s) someone wishes to interact with. This work was bottom up

 

The next challenge for oBIX is to
define standard contracts, to create a higher level of abstraction. This work
must be top-down, and it appears that one of the higher level perspectives is
NBIMS. I think higher lever standard contracts will morph, with experience,
into abstract interfaces, and these interfaces will be the basis for true
enterprise interactivity.

 

I very much want control systems to
become part of the design, for energy models to comission the design, for
building conmmmissioning that commissions the construction be mappable to the design-based
energy model, and for live modeling to be comprable to design model and the
commissioning model.

 

I think that this level of
abstraction will be essential to maintaining warrantability of each system in
multi-system buildings installed by different contactors while enabling
corrdination of intelligent buildings to dance with the intelligent power grid
envisioned by GridWise.

 

And I think it will be worthwhile
each step of the way as we feel out the next step.

 

Talk to you at 1. (eastern time)

 

tc

 

 

I am a senior architect at
Merrick and Company and have been tracking the NBIMS initiative since last
August as part of a 9 month research effort, which has led us to begin implementing
BIM company-wide using the Autodesk Revit software platform for architecture,
structural, and MEP design.  My reason for attending:

 

I
and our lead mechanical engineer are both interested in keeping up to date with
progress on interoperability between software platforms for the future of the
AEC industry, and your comments regarding “Energy modeling
scenarios” and “common Energy Model from Design to Commission to
Operations” caught my eye, as I see the potential uses for BIM in
sustainable design.  We would be participating in this summit initially as
interested professionals, yet by the end we may have questions.

 

We bring no NBIMS or other
interoperability expertise to the table, although I am reviewing the NBIMS
Version 1, Part 1 in depth, with a goal of joining the consensus committee in
the near future.

 

Regards,

 

Robert S. Huston, RA, NCARB

Senior Architect - BIM
Technology Coordinator

Merrick & Company

Building Quality Solutions

Engineers and Architects

2450 S. Peoria St.

Aurora, CO 80014

Direct  303-353-3613

Office  303-751-0741

Fax    
303-751-2581



www.merrick.com

 I figure I will put in my two cents also:

 

In looking at the total lifecycle picture of a BIM, the development
through planning, design, construction and commissioning puts the model in
place to be a valuable spatial tool to the operator and sustainer.  Not
only does one have accurate detailed information about the facility but they
also have the design intent and analysis that went into the design.
 Having an energy audit capability, using sensors designed to operate the
facility, can provide a non-gaming metric to ensure that in fact the facility
is being operated as it was intended.  Linking this with other
infrastructure aspects including information technology, network operations and
physical security monitoring provides a rather complete model of the facility
that can be used by a full time operations center for larger facilities or
campus type environments.  All of this can easily and cost effectively be
done today with significant and demonstrated return on investment. 
  

Thank
you.

Deke
Smith

Mr.
Dana K. "Deke" Smith, RA

Chair

NIBS Facility Information Council

National BIM Standard Project Committee

(703) 481-9573 cell (703) 909-9670

Hi
Toby/All,

 

I’d
also like to participate in this discussion as well as we look for integration
roadmaps for all of us to exchange data across the supply chain.

 

Here’s
a link to our latest document describing our list of data standards development
Work Groups. 

http://www.oscre.org/news/OSCRE_WorkGroups22MAR07_22032007.pdf

 

There
will be a large number of industry supply chain stakeholders currently
participating with OSCRE that will benefit from oBIX-NBIMS-OGC-ICC-IAI &
others interoperability. Conversely, our constituents will have a lot to
contribute to the BIM.

 

I
look forward to the discussion. 

 

Best
Regards,

Andy

 

Andy Fuhrman

CEO

Open Standards Consortium for Real Estate (OSCRE)

799 Summit Drive

Santa Cruz, CA  95060

Tel.  831.458.3346

Email: 

MSN-IM: 

Skype: andyfuhrman

Website: http://www.oscre.org

The
common model, no limits, seems that oBIX has many key bits of information
that need to be included in the whole life cycle info sharing bit. As
a multidiscipline Architectural / Engineering firm with many clients for life,
we see the connection (or lack of) between the way systems are designed /
engineered and the way systems are operated. Seems that ways of sharing
information along these lines should be fleshed out to be of help in the
efficient operations of the facility. Basically, I would like to know more
about oBIX.

 

Thanks,

Mark Butler 

Systems Integration Manager

Professional Associate 

HDR ONE COMPANY |
Many Solutions 

8404 Indian
Hills Drive | Omaha, NE | 68114-4098 

Phone:
402.392.8782 | Email:


I
believe National Institutes of Health (NIH) with it main Campus in Bethesda,
MD, USA, is the largest Research Health Facility in the World.  NIH
facilities include over 150,000,000 Square Meter of buildings (close to
90,000,000 Square Meter of the space at the Bethesda Campus in Maryland, USA).

 

We
require Building Information Modeling (BIM) on our new large projects;
currently we have two (2) large projects and one small project under design in
BIM.

 

We utilize GIS and Facility Management Software, and we find the
efforts of FIC-BIM and its participant and all its supporting vendors and
consultants helpful to our needs and goals, including our BIM-GIS-FM approach
for Total Facility Design Construction and Operation.  The efforts of OSCRE
STRATEGY
AND PLANNING METRICS WORK GROUP (SPM-WG), will have direct impact to our Facility
Management and will provide support to Federal Real Property Council (FRPC) and its data reporting
requirement per executive order 13327.

 

Regards,

 

Reza
Jafari, P.E.

National
Institutes of Health

Office
of Research Facilities

13
South Drive

Bethesda,
MD 20892-5759

Tel:
(301) 435-9384

Cell
(301) 252-8861

We do a lot
of work integrating FM and GIS for space and asset management and are very
interested in the oBIX initiatives and the convergence of these technologies.

 

David A. Jordani,
FAIA

President

JORDANI
CONSULTING GROUP

12 S. Sixth
Street, Suite 914

Minneapolis,
MN 55402

612.333.9222;
612.220.0780 (Cell)



http://www.jordani.com

Reasons I am at this meeting…

 

There is a growing realization that
a significant convergence is occurring around the subject of
“buildings”, not only on technology terms but also in the
stakeholders around buildings. This meeting seems to be another thread in such
trend. I would like to frame all of this under an umbrella of “Buildings
2.0”.

 

See http://automatedbuildings.com/news/apr07/articles/clasma/070320114020budiardjo.htm

 

I’d like to encourage oBIX,
NBIMS, OSCRE and other stakeholders to further develop the Buildings 2.0
concept in Chicago this May.

 

Cheers,

 

Anto...

Anto Budiardjo - President &
CEO, Clasma Events Inc.

Email 
• Phone: USA +1(817)946-3162 • Europe +44 (770) 417-0376 •
Asia +65 (9)465-8128

ConnectivityWeek:
BuilConn, M2M Expo, Wi-tivity, GridWise Expo, ibX Forum

You asked >: “Why am I
attending?”

Great question, and I hope this
is not too “academic”.

 

As a consumer (and not a vendor)
I simply need to convince 4 people or more to buy into this emerging building
& energy control standards Roadmap. The more I understand and can
semantically model at the enterprise level and at the technical level, the more
successful will be my arguments for policy and behavioral changes. 

 

 

Cheers,

 

Bob

==============================

 

Bob Smith, Ph.D.

Ontology Projects Manager

Tall Tree Labs, HB, CA.

Professor Emeritus, CSU

(Environmental Board, City of
HB)

(714) 536-1084

From: Brian Frank
[mailto:] 

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 12:54 PM

To: Considine, Toby (Technology Services)

Subject: RE: Upcoming NBIMS

 

I don't think we have a concrete agenda - if they have
ideas about how to integrate with oBIX then that sounds great.

I like the agenda and would like to join the meeting.

Omer.

 

Omer Akin, PhD, Professor of Architecture, Carnegie
Mellon University, 5000 Forbes Avenue, Pittsburgh PA 15213-3890, USA; (v) +(1)
412 268 3594; (f)

+(1) 412 268 7507

Please
count us in.  THANKS.

 

Best
regards,

Francoise

_____________________________________

Françoise Szigeti (Ms), Vice President

Gerald Davis, President, f-astm, f-ifma, cfm, aia

International Centre for Facilities (ICF)

Centre International d'Etudes de la Gestion des Bâtiments et  Equipements
(CEBE)

440 Laurier Avenue West #200

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada  K1R 7X6

Phone: +1 613 727-1788

Fax: +1 613 723-9167



Web: www.icf-cebe.com

 

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I'd like to participate, tho not as technically savvy. 

Ed Acker

 

 

LonMark is interested in this liaison meeting to
determine where oBIX and NBIMS overlap.  At that region of overlap, we hope to
lend a hand dovetailing oBIX into the NBIMS project goals; driving not only
NBIMS forward but oBIX as well.  The results of those efforts should be a model
that allows underlying-control technologies like LonWorks to be integrated with
the enterprise and architectural -systems' representation/storage that NBIMS
intends to standardize.  NBIMS is a project with which our staff has yet to
become involved.  This liaison may provide that introduction for us.

 

Talk to you at the meeting. 

 

Best Regards,

Jeremy J. ROBERTS, Technical Director

LONMARK International - http://www.lonmark.org/
Technical Office - mailto:
PO Box 268, Jamison PA 18929-0268, USA

T: +1 215 918-1026 . F: +1 215 918-1027

I'm
interested in attending the call -- any additional information you could send
me on oBIX would be helpful.  I hope you will include the call information
on the agenda.

 

Thanks.

 

Greg Ceton

 

Technical Program Manager

Construction Specifications Institute

p: 703-706-4723 f: 703-236-4623

 

"It is the theory
that decides what can be observed."   -
Albert Einstein

 

  
  
Toby Considine

  
Chair, OASIS oBIX TC

  Facilities Technology Office

  University of North Carolina

  Chapel Hill, NC

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
Email: Toby.Considine@
  unc.edu

  Phone: (919)962-9073 

  
http://www.oasis-open.org
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